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I guess this could depend on who she felt threatened by - if a vehicle, I could see running into the woods but if someone on foot, the road increases her chances of help. Think hard, sounds like your pursuer was on foot? Remember that weird interview on Greta van Sustern on 8/11 where they...

I'm not really sure - I'm just brainstorming around that 8/11 press release that not only said that the killer most likely had scratches but that changed the time from 1:00-3:00. We know that her autopsy results were in by that point and that LE removed evidence from that woods earlier that...

Does anyone know how her family would know where her cell phone pinged? Perhaps I'm missing a simple answer, but all the information I find about "pinging" (which I know nothing about) talks about how LE can use it to track a cell phone location but nothing mentions using it in a practical...

In my early notes I had written down 2:25 with a link to this forum (forum 1, post 309, I think to the Boston Globe) but that article no longer contains the time of the cell phone ping. Just wanted to see if you had more accurate info - thanks.

And really it wasn't just the time of death, it was the window during which they were asking the public for information, right? So LE determined that not only the time of death occurred by 3:00, but that the assailant had time to burn her body and leave the scene by 3:00. Such a small window of...

Rocky - we've been discussing the actual time of the cell phone ping. Some of us have it in our early case notes as 2:25 but you have 2:45 and I think I've seen it elsewhere as 2:45. Do you know where the 2:45 came from? Thanks!

I actually have 2:25 in my old notes as well but then I thought the time was changed to 2:45. I can't remember exactly when/why and I can't find anything in MSM either. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Ok, I don't mean to be argumentative but after some quick research I still think the police must have found something more definitive than her autopsy results to narrow the search time frame. Assuming a time of death of 1:30, there is only a 1.5 hour window until 3:00. Bodies lose ~1.4...

Have you noticed that cleared building lot on Brooks Station Rd near the cart path? I can't remember when the trees were cut down but that lot might be deep enough to hide a car and I think it's between where VM was found and her moms house but on the other side of the road. I too am finding...

Agreed - the houses are far apart but sound travels well and screams would be noticed. Perhaps she was incapacitated, gagged, taken somewhere where she came to and fought her attacker inflicting the gouges and scratches mentioned by LE. Just guessing as well.

Rocky, I thought about that but given how hot it was that day I assumed that Authorities wouldn't narrow the timeframe that definitively based on body temp alone. Especially since they are using that time window for information gathering, not as a specific time of death window. However I really...

Also, something led the police to change the query window from the original 1:00-4:00 to 1:00-3:00. Perhaps they were able to tell if her phone was shut-off or destroyed around this time indicting that something had happened to it/her? So a final location at/near the Mt barn around 2:45 and then...

I really know nothing about cell phone/tower pings BUT it seems to me that if her family used an app to determine that she was near the Mt Barn around 2:45 and then went and looked for her in that location, the app would relay something more accurate than just a cell tower ping from the nearest...

The cart path piece is so perplexing! Just wondering - are we clear on if she was actually found on the cart path? It runs fairly parallel with the road so 100 yards directly down the cart path vs 100 yards straight into the woods starting from the cart path would mean a difference of about 100...

All of these theories are great but I'm also wondering what you all think about LE's persistent requests for information about vehicles spotted in the area. I called in a tip on the Monday after Vanessa was found and was drilled by LE about any vehicles I may have spotted and I have heard from a...

I just did some research on this - it's actually one 50 acre lot for sale, located by the start of Connor Rd and the cart path but on the other side of the road. The land has been for sale for awhile but the clearing looks fairly recent. The street address is 6 brooks station Rd.

I just drove down Brooks Station Rd yesterday and noticed quite a few lots for sale and some already cleared out. I think they were fairly close to VM's aunt and uncle's house. I'm not on that road often enough to know how long crews may have been clearing the land - do any locals know when that...

Just a FYI, but I don't think there is a gas station within 5 miles of BSR, so definitely 10 minutes out and 10 minutes back, at least. I actually don't think there's a gas station in Princeton.

Based on her known running routes, speed, and weather on that day, that sounds about right, or at least within 5-10 minutes to account for variations on departure time and stretching routine. And if she talked on her cell phone for a few minutes prior to starting out. Ugh - it seems like there...