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  1. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #25

    From Post 799, Thread 24 "Tugela" Re: Cadaver Dogs picking up scent right after death... A trained human cadaver dog will not signal a living person or an animal (except pigs), but it will signal a recently deceased, putrefying or skeletonised human corpse. That suggests that the "bouquet of...
  2. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I don't believe that JR is the only person who knows what happened and I'm not sure he would even know where she is, unless he was a passenger in the vehicle that took her away. IMO, he looked the other way, let DB do as he will, while in his mind JR knows its bad when she's gone the next day...
  3. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    A search warrant for those 5 north apts would not be difficult to get if they weren't searched already. The scent of a dead body being there will always be there no matter how much cleaning they do. If Lauren died in either one of those apts and was there for more than 10 minutes, her scent...
  4. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    No I'm not convinced LE is referring to CR. There are several videos that they refer to as CR and LS walking through the alley but this one they don't come out and say CR. I also find it strange that later on evidence from CR's own attorney has CR walking in front of his office, alone. Where...
  5. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Yes, in addition to the white truck, they were asking for help in identifying several cars.
  6. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I find it very hard to believe that JW didn't try to reach his girlfriend at all. She was supposed to come over to his place that night. I think that's a stretch. LE knows the truth because they have his cell records. I'm not pointing the finger at JW but I find it crazy to think he never...
  7. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Would that be an exit of sorts out of Bton? If so, FINALLY, someone is using their brains. Now, find the cars leaving Bton between 3:30-5AMis on June 3. Run the cars against the POIs/parents. There can't be many. Pay particular attention to the one with Michigan plates. Ok, call in the FBI to...
  8. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I believe she had a ton of close friends. These were friends who, on June 3, for some reason or another, chose to drink the Kool Aid they drink at 5 North. That Kool Aid is pretty powerful, IMO. Powerful enough to end a friendship.
  9. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    The CAR. I couldn't agree with you more. Where there's the car, there's a SCENT that is (would be) undeniably picked up by cadaver dogs. Where there's a car there's a DRIVER/OWNER that knows where Lauren is. There is possibly a PASSENGER who knows as well. There is likely a CELL PHONE ...
  10. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I'm with you mama. The puzzling thing is that MB was apparently the only sober one that night. He appears to be an innocent bystander IMO, but is he? He could get out of the ring of fire rather quick by telling what he knows, what he doesn't know, unless his sobriety was cause for him to be...
  11. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I'm thinking if LE would just FOLLOW THE PINGS - not many people were awake that late - they'd be that much closer to Lauren.
  12. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I would think that JR and DB, if they took Lauren, would not take her to their hometown or en route to their hometown. That would sink them in a trial. I keep thinking of that tweet from DB and I'm thinking he took her somewhere that night, and perhaps DID return to Bton, tweeting as if to...
  13. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Not familiar with the area - is this off a major highway that one would take, lets say, to Michigan?
  14. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Do you know how JR got back to MI and when? I tend to think that you're not ruling DB out as the MPOI. Could it also be that the ZO, AB group had an out of town guest that this board is unaware of? I don't doubt DB's presence at JR's that night. JR could have tried to thwart anything...
  15. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    AO - It seems likely JR would have contacted the MPOI (assuming he has their contact info), especially if they are an IU student. Could the MPOI have refused to respond? It seems here that you are clearly referring to DR and DR not answering the call unless you are referring to an earlier...
  16. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Are you saying that JR's friend came down the night before the concert, on June 2, to pick him up and take him there on June 3? In which case he hung around the night of June 2? What do you mean by "whether or not he ultimately went along, which it sounds like he didn't" Do you mean that JR...
  17. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I find your theory very plausible, despite my prior disagreements with you. You are pointing to several people that I can imagine and check me if I'm wrong on them, but I believe you may be referring to DB. Now ZO, AB or AA could also be the opportunists (one for sure being involved in the...
  18. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    What time did he get the phone? He was already contacting the parents by evening and the bar doesn't open until 4.
  19. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I am a little confused/suspect as to when JW called LS's phone and the bar picked up. I also wonder, if the bar doesn't open until earliest 2PM, when and how he got the phone. Did he get it the night before? If he was calling it in the morning, presumably no one would answer seeing that no one...
  20. Pedrosmom

    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    The only accurate records here would be the phone call/text logs of both LS and JW's phone. It's easy to erase a text or many but the fact that they existed can be substantiated elsewhere. I find the Spierer's phone comments strange. Perhaps they are implying that the phone not only was...

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