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Everyone can look at the Elizabeth Smart case and learn something. How many investigators, media, GENERAL PUBLIC gave up on ever finding her because the man who had supposedly "done the deed" was sitting in jail, with very little evidence that he'd done anything. Nancy Grace made it very clear...

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/53514692-78/powell-images-hearing-child.html.csp If JP was not doing as they asked TO THE LETTER, I can't imagine that they would send him a letter like this. Nor can I imagine that he would blatantly lie about such a letter and not have provided it to the...

As always, if someone gives me information that my facts are wrong I try to find it (when they won't provide it). Still haven't been able to find anything that JP refused to do ANYTHING that was asked of him, did find this. JP's statement made in court at his dependency hearing. “Not only...

Thanks Irish...guess that's my point, what you or I think doesn't matter, court law establishes what is imminent (and thank you for correcting my spelling!!)danger and in this case the minute SP was gone, so was the threat of imminent danger. But as I said, I have no problem agreeing to...

Once again, I've never "enabled" OR "made excuses" for JP killing his children. And the evidence CPS had to take his children from him was *advertiser censored* on his computer. What I would like to see is the law followed, it's that simple. And the law states that they cannot remove a child unless there is...

"The boys did exhibit signs of being abused. They were "robots" as described by many. According to the court, they were beginning to act and behave in a much better way after being with the Coxes for those months." Again, they were described as "robots" by Mr. Cox. Who are the "many"? And...

PS...please don't accuse me of "condoning" what JP did. I obviously do not. This thread is about parental rights vs child safety. I am simply providing information to this group that, should they chose to investigate it, they will see that children being used by this agency is far more common...

Thanks! Have seen a few happy ending stories here and can't wait to get to them...

"I am aware that CPS makes mistakes." CPS does not make "mistakes". These are blatant, intentional violations of law, perjury, filing false reports and violating peoples civil rights in order to justify taking a child (or children)and then doing whatever they have to in order to be "right"...

Correct, they left the boys with him for TWO YEARS and when they couldn't make their case, they moved to that level. His children were completely safe with him for TWO YEARS and would have continued to be had they not done what they did. "No, he hasn't been convicted, or even arrested, but...

I apologize in advance. I see, in continuing reading that there are at least SOME posts that explore the facts surrounding "child abuse".

Why were his kids ever removed from him in the first place? The original cause was he had *advertiser censored* on his computer. The ACTUAL cause was because investigators and the Cox's were trying to USE THE CHILDREN to make their case. This is the third such instance of something similar in less than a...