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I agree with all this too.

^^^ Everything you just said. And new details continue to devastate me. I didn't even know Victoria was excited about having a kitten until recent testimony. The neighbor said Victoria went home to get her kitten and never came back. I remember one of the news stations played a phone...

I think Jessica Kelley killed Victoria herself in a psychotic paranoid state. I've always thought this. This "man" who planned to kill Victoria would have no way of knowing to what extent Jessica was high or paranoid or otherwise incapacitated. By all accounts, Jessica was a very tough broad who...

Absolutely. They say it may have transferred when Kelley "straddled" Victoria to dismember her. But when ELSE does someone "straddle" someone else? To STRANGLE them. Ugh. This case sickens me, but the twists and turns are something straight out of a SVU episode.

Yeah, at this point, I don't believe a 4th person exists either. Especially not after this phone call. Key suspect in Martens case speaks with sister, hours before girl's death I think Kelley was tweaking and in the midst of some psychotic episode when she killed Victoria all by herself. All...

Here's what I don't get, in regard to Jessica Kelley's version of events. The way she puts it, she was so high, and so debilitated when the mystery man came into the apartment, that she was unable to stop him from killing Victoria. Or she didn't know he was killing Victoria. Or something. And...

I've followed this story from the beginning, and here's one thing that bugs me. So they figure out that 90% of the story was false, because Michelle Martens is compelled or predisposed or whatever to make crap up. Fair enough. But then they offer her a plea deal based on her willingness to...

When this story first broke, I remember thinking "meth." I figured that's what turned the adults into monsters, and why quality of life in the house took such an abrupt nosedive. But drugs were never mentioned at the trial, and so I guess it turns out they were just plain evil. But am I the only...