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  1. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I still don't think there is any indication that it was a "choice" per se. We have no confirmation where anyone else in the group was. And due to the fact that the family says (and RCCL doesn't deny) that there was some type of errand that KW had to complete, the only thing that makes any sense...
  2. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    From page 9 of the newest doc: "The Complaint fails to allege that a passenger has ever done what Mr. Anello did. This is because any reasonable person would have 1) not placed an 18-month old child where he did, and 2) would have perceived with their ordinary senses that the window, open to...
  3. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    NEW DOCUMENT ROYAL CARIBBEAN CRUISES LTD.’S REPLY IN SUPPORT OF ITS AMENDED MOTION TO DISMISS THE COMPLAINT FOR FAILURE TO STATE A CAUSE OF ACTIONCase 1:19-cv-25100-DLG Document 32 Entered on FLSD Docket 03/04/2020 14 Pages 32 - RCCL Response 3-4.pdf I'm just going to put my favorite...
  4. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    snipped by me @Lawsmygame2 post number 697 on page 35 of this thread. see above
  5. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    The only thing on the calendar for the civil case is the telephone status conference that is still set for Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 2:00 P.M. But I do have something else to share... NEW DOCUMENT PLAINTIFFS’ RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANT’S AMENDED MOTION TO DISMISS COMPLAINT FOR...
  6. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    As far as I can recall, SA is the only one who ever claimed he yelled "I thought there was glass" after she fell, and that was only after hooking up with Winkleman. The only (currently) available witness statement we have from the doctor says that his words after "I dropped my baby" were "I...
  7. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    The judge will definitely get to see it after all the fuss Winkleman made over those cameras The question is do they actually have grounds to have that video sealed? As RCCL pointed out in their initial (denied) motion to dismiss, the video already exists in the public domain. That's like...
  8. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Yeah... no. It doesn't sound like he's fully accepted his part at all. It doesn't appear to be the full statement but here's what CBS shared: "At the moment the accident happened, it was as if this wall of protective glass disappeared," Anello said in his statement. "I was in complete disbelief...
  9. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Damn, the same day I say that Winkleman doesn't have anything to cause trouble/drama he sure as hell proves me wrong :p Sam and the prosecutor may have come to an agreement, but that doesn't mean that the judge has to accept it. The judge could accept the guilty part and sentence him to jail...
  10. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    He was not sedated. This comes directly from the statement of the cruise ship doctor. The only ones who were sedated were KW and Grandma Mary Wiegand Prelim Response to Dismiss 4.pdf **edit, I don't know if Mary is SA's wife or not
  11. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Nope. Absolutely no action on the civil docket since the new motion to dismiss. I'm guessing he's going to wait out the clock and file on the last day. Doesn't seem he has anything else to try and stir up trouble/drama with for the time being.
  12. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Oh, I know. I meant it more as a counter to the "SA was only charged to protect the cruise line" arguments that keep coming up as if RCCL somehow has control over the criminal justice system and gets to make decisions about charges.
  13. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    snipped for brevity I keep seeing people posting this. The criminal case was filed FIRST. SA was charged back in November. While the Wiegand's have been threatening to sue since the outset, they didn't actually file until December, about two weeks after. The more likely argument is that the...
  14. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    Here's the local paper for the Wiegand's, no new statement from them yet Grandfather charged in Granger girl's fall from cruise ship declines jury trial, will face judge
  15. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    So the boy (10 years old is it? IIRC) was just wandering around the ship by himself? The way it's described it's like they just stumble onto the scene taken from an old silent film. Entrance state right. One at a time now, folks. And remember to over-exaggerate for the people in the back row...
  16. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I've come down with a cold or some other type of respiratory illness and fell asleep reading posts and had the oddest dreams last night. My head is pounding right now but I woke up with a thought. Something that KW said in the one press conference with the red lipstick. It dawned on me why I...
  17. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    I think in this instance Winkleman referring to "the family" is to try and show the Wiegands and SA are united in this. The many statements released have often referred to the criminal case as what they seem to view as a personal attack, even if the case is only against SA. "The family publicly...
  18. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    If RCCL is being charged criminally by PR I'm sure the forum would be very interested to see this information
  19. K

    IN - Grandfather charged in cruise ship death of toddler Chloe Wiegand #8

    RCCL DID reply. The DID NOT dispute the timeline. New Motion to Dismiss 2-13.pdf

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