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If anyone is in or close to the Carlsbad area and if you have time...the LDS Family History Center in Carlsbad has copies of the old local newspapers in large binders - at least that is what I have been told. I'm wondering if we can't access the McGrew obituary that way, as well as other...

I emailed SS1950 and asked her permission to share the out of state accounts of the girls' murders, since she doesn't have some of these. Various ones of these show an even greater degree of brutality inflicted to Mattie than do the in state reports. I'll let SS1950 take it from here...as...

November 3, 1961 Albuquerque Journal...Last Day is Described

Fish1966, when you say "untimely death," could you expand on that? If not, I understand. Thank you.

From a website on the internet relating to Hawkins and his brother, Oscar: "... Henry Oscar Hawkins ("Oscar") who was a career FBI agent in the early days of that agency. Rising in the ranks under Director J. Edgar Hoover, Oscar served as Special Agent in Charge of the Cleveland, Houston and...

Here's the source from Estrada's summary reports: "Sunday, August 13, 1961, had interview with subject Willie Dee Blair, 2412 W. Texas St., Carlsbad, New Mexico, age 43, who was one of two subjects finding ..." You make a good point, Finder50. The route that you mentioned would leave less...

I suppose it is also merely a coincidence that NM Democratic Party leader, TE "Gene" Lusk from Carlsbad committed "suicide" in February, 1969 in a restroom near his wife's hospital room where she was recovering from a brain tumor surgery for which a full recovery was expected. He was the...

Weren't the B's living on Texas Street at the time of the murders? I do see where they may have moved to Olive Street later. But, Texas Street is in fairly close proximity to this area as well. We'll have to check it out... It sounds like DB and BB lived somewhere other than with the...

SS1950, Have you ever spoken with Dan McGrew's family? Did they ever dispute the suicide ruling that you know of? Do you know where his family was from? Blair, Titus, Hawkins, and McGrew all seem so interconnected - maybe we should check military records as a possibility. Why would...

Excerpt from Estrada's summary report: "He stated that he and a colleague of his from that time period had traveled to Carlsbad 3 days after the girls were found. He stated they had met with Dan McGrew who had taken them to the scene where the bodies were found and that they were still...

From what I have gleaned, CT and JT and their other siblings were raised in Pecos.

I show CT's brother had children in 1958 and 1963 in Reeves County, Texas (where Pecos is located), so I would assume he was living in Pecos or a smaller surrounding town during those years.

Titus mentioned he and another law enforcement officer(s)? from Pecos visited the scene within days of the girls' bodies being found. It should be noted that he had a twin brother who was also a retired police officer per an online obituary: James Frederick Titus born Feb 1930, died Dec 2002...

Fish1966, so the girls would have naturally walked in front of the drive-in on their way home, whether they had stopped there or not, on their way home from the beach and turned directly left on to Mesquite as they left the drive-in, without crossing Church as they left? The drive in was on the...

You are right. I have been mistaken. Thanks for the clarification.

SS1950, would you happen to have access to specific interviews of the drive-in eyewitnesses? The summary reports are a little confusing when they say "two girls" and then "the girls" got into a car in the same paragraph. I'm particularly wondering if the sighting by Mrs. Smith was of Mattie...

Yes the research group information is important. They were leaning toward the Rabe theory - which is interesting in itself.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start Please allow me to share this site. It contains a wealth of information (at no charge currently) which could allow more indepth study into this cold case, or any other for that matter. You can see copies of Texas death certificates...

I was too tired last night when I posted. The last name of the family shown as Brisco or Briscoe should be Bristo or Bristow - my apologies. I have edited my post accordingly.

In fact, in the fifty mile stretch on Hwy. 287 between Wichita Falls and Vernon lies the even smaller communities of Iowa Park, Electra and Harrold. These names have shown up in the various histories of the families. Some of the extended family also lived directly in Wichita Falls, where...