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@Songline: So you think she would have put herself out there if there had been no media or financial pressure? Please. Listen, you don't have to be on the cover of a national magazine to reclaim your life. Obviously, you and others think this is just fine. I don't. That's that.

@Kbl: I didn't say that you cared. I, too, wrote earlier that I thought hair color was a minor point. I wrote that extra note there because I thought maybe someone, not necessarily you, would think, "Well, how did you know what color hair the oldest had if you didn't buy the magazine?" I just...

Oh, and the reason why I know what her eldest daughter's hair looks like is because I saw the blurred out photo of the two girls from before.

@kbl: No, I saw her image by accident. I was waiting in line at a grocery store and there she was on the magazine rack. I didn't buy the magazine, I just saw the cover. I still think it's exploitative. If it had not been for the incredible media and financial pressure, I can't imagine she...

@notmykids: Really? Wow. I was platinum as a baby but it had changed to dark brown by the time I was 8. I didn't really think it was possible to go dark after puberty, at the latest.

Well, I finally saw her image on "People" after I had avoided it for a few days. She looks like Jodie Foster from her "Silence of the Lambs" days. @flourish: I agree. I believe Dugard is trying in some way to shield her privacy. I think, at best, it's extremely rare for your hair to go...

Assuming this is all true, of course: This just proves how disturbingly close he is to his mother, furthering my belief that she abused him as a boy. As I said before, it's common for former victims to emotionally depend on their parents who abused them. His identity was based on playing...

@Songline: To me the most damning thing about her is that even after her son *admitted* to having rape fantasies, wanting to rape young girls, and having exposed himself to young girls, she still backed him. She wasn't in denial. She knew and was accepting of it. That is something I still...

One correction: I've reread the article and although the following sentence implies Garrido introduced "Alyssa" to his mother from the very beginning in 1991, it's not crystal clear: "He took Jaycee there in 1991 after abducting her off the street, introduced her as “Allissa” and calmly...

@Songline: Eesh, that's where Garrido got that incredibly creepy stare from hell. From the Berkeley officers', the girls have Garrido's eyes. To me, that's his most distinguishing feature. Patricia Garrido is a sick, twisted woman. She met "Alyssa" from the very beginning. If this is true...

MIT, in addition to several top schools such as Stanford and Princeton, have an incredible online library of courses, particularly on iTunes. MIT has OpenCourseWare. They could do a lot with that in the time being.

JakeTucker put up this great article from another thread it's claimed that Dugard was indeed kept "locked up" for the first 3 and 1/2 years. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2163889/jaycee_dugard_kept_in_isolation_for.html?cat=49 "According to Michael Cardoza's report, Phillip...

@JakeTucker: Thanks, Jake. I *thought* I had read that Dugard was kept locked up somewhere. It answers a question I had in another thread.

Yes, this seems like something Garrido would do to rape his victims or to make the girls more submissive, considering he's a junkie and he actually did this before as a rapist (Calloway with hash). And, I must admit, it helps makes sense of why the girls' behavior seem so different now versus...

The more I keep thinking about Patricia Garrido, the more I wish we could bring more info on Manuel Garrido. To me, he's just as central in understanding Phillip Garrido, especially since a father is an incredible role model for a son, good or bad. But we hardly know anything concrete on the...

Ack, correction! I remembered it wrong. Though I still doubt the story considering that it would be so odd for Jaycee to tell a boy her name and not raise the alarm of needing help in 1991. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/10/earlyshow/main5300008.shtml Cardoza says police sources...

@kbl: No, he kept her locked up for those first 3 and 1/2 years. So, it's not possible.

@kbl: Since Dugard said that she was totally isolated for the first 3 and 1/2 years, it's clear that man was lying about seeing Jaycee as a 9 year-old boy in 1991. Doesn't surprise me: everyone wants their 15 minutes.

I wonder if Patricia Garrido honestly did not hear about the Dugard kidnapping case? Did she not see the images of Jaycee Dugard all over the TV screens in California at that time? I'm guessing Dugard looked quite similar to her photograph at 11 as she did when she was about 14 or 15, whenever...

@Jbean: That is a good question. To me, Patricia Garrido knew exactly what her son was. He was not only a convicted kidnapper and rapist, but he confessed to wanting to rape young children. Still, Patricia Garrido stood by him. To me, that means that she was OK with what he did. But...