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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Haven't read it. Is that the book that points right at Danny Heinrich?
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I just read an article at http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/09/13/jared-scheierl-joy-baker-wetterling/?e=vbC3*LOiaACTOA&utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=11427&utm_campaign=daily-news-headlines-recommended--46 about the roles that Joy Baker, a blogger, and Jared Scheierl, a survivor...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I've been reading a bit about the Jacob Wetterling case again, since it is pretty clear the perp has been caught. For those who think it would be really difficult to control two girls, consider the Jacob Wetterling case. The perp in that case had no problems at all controlling Jacob (11), his...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Law enforcement has been kind of equivocal; as best as I can recall, they've said that the immediate families are not suspects but at other times LE has said words to the effect that they have not ruled anyone out. For me, it is that sort of ambiguity that makes solving murder cases so...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Marilynilpa, I am sending thoughts for healing and fast recovery your way.
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    There's a lesson to be learned from Jacob's case. For years, there was a suspect in the case based solely on the fact that he lived on the farm opposite the place where Jacob was abducted. I'm not going to name him because he has been subjected to serious harassment for the last ten years, to...
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    DC DC - Chandra Levy, 24, Washington DC, 1 May 2001 *found deceased in 2002*

    Interesting. I remember early on I had doubts about Guandique after I read a detailed history of his crimes. What made me wonder was that he had been accused in an incident where he broke and entered into a woman's apartment one week after Chandra Levy disappeared. In that case, the woman was...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    First of all, thank you very much, to both you and your husband. I'm glad they were keeping records of who was there and particularly impressed that they were checking IDs. It is awful to think about but there's definitely a chance that the perp's name is somewhere on that list.
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    WS verified law enforcement poster RichKelly posted earlier in this thread that, statistically, most perpetrators who abduct, sexually assault and murder children are not serial killers. RichKelly speculated that the perp in this case probably feels really bad about what he did rather than...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I'm not sure I do remember unless you're talking about the bicyclist (I do not want to name him because, as I understand it, he suffered quite a bit of gossip and online attacks that really affected him emotionally).
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    SBM I was just reminded of a situation where an 11 year old girl was abducted on surveillance video: Carlie Brucia. She was walking home through the parking lot of a car wash when Joseph P Smith approached her, had a brief conversation with her, grabbed her by the wrist and led her off to his...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    The top possibility in my mind has always been that the girls did what about 40% of all women violently attacked do: froze up and could not make a sound. Men also freeze up, which is why military training from just about the first minute of basic training requires the trainees to scream out...
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    DC DC - Chandra Levy, 24, Washington DC, 1 May 2001 *found deceased in 2002*

    Gary Ridgway passed a polygraph and, based on that pass, law enforcement let him go, even though they had good eyewitness testimony linking him to Marie Malvar. Hey, he only killed about 10 more women after that. In other cases, every single one of the spies discovered in the last 50 years...
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    OH OH - Ronald Tammen, 19, Oxford, 19 April 1953

    That is what I've thought all along. His fraternity brothers would be over 80 years old now. Back in 2008, when there was an unidentified body that was DNA tested and found not to be a match with Ron Tammen's sister Marcia, she was his only immediate family member still alive. She told a...
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    DC DC - Chandra Levy, 24, Washington DC, 1 May 2001 *found deceased in 2002*

    I never believed it was Condit because it just didn't make sense. If he had been concerned about Chandra Levy talking about their affair, he would have paid her off in conjunction with her signing a legal contract that would revoke the (hefty) payment if she made a peep. The payment would be...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Mmmmmmaybe but I just don't think this is the guy. Something I've been wondering about for a long time (since before the girls' remains were found) was, if there was evidence of a sexual assault, whether both Elizabeth and Lyric were victimised. To put it crudely, some killers just don't care...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    My impression, from what Rich Kelly said, was that this individual is not someone who has a high level of social skills. He couldn't, for instance, groom victims over a long period of time (months), probably because he doesn't inspire parents and other people in authority as being trustworthy...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    That just gave me a (rather icky) thought: what better way to establish one's self as innocent than to join in the initial search? Even though the phenomenon of perps joining the search is well known, I think natural human inclination is to view anyone who was concerned and active on the very...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    Originally I was convinced that the person who did this had to be a serial perpetrator. Then I read RichKelly's (one of WebSleuths verified law enforcement According to Rich, this was more likely to be the perpetrator's first and probably only murder. And he feels terrible about it but is too...
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    Found Deceased IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #37

    I don't track the Waterloo Courier because it is a subscription site with only 10 free articles a month. Since I'm not that interested in northern Iowa, it's not worth the subscription price to me. However, I do subscribe to the Des Moines Register and the girls are mentioned either directly or...

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