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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #12

    This guy? - http://www.onenewspage.us/video/20110611/456171/Search-for-Spierer-Police-collect-DNA.htm (at beginning and again at 2:45) What was so traumatic that's also being covered up by MB and JR and JR's friend from home?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #12

    I doubt LE is saying that anyone has "passed" at this point, even to their lawyers (or perhaps conditioning telling the lawyer on the agreement that it won't be made public), for investigative purposes. I don't think we know when JR left town (though I believe that he did), or when he may...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #12

    I don't think we should necessarily believe these things either, including things that CR's attorney says. He or other lawyers may stretch the truth when speaking to the media - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/lawyers-lie-with-impunity_b_864824.html. I doubt they would say...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #12

    From the last thread: "Not that I don't believe CR's memory loss, but there is no real way to check whether he actually has memory loss or remembers what he was doing that night." Whether it's "real" is debatable, but I think a polygraph would be quite useful in that regard. He's taken one.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    So could CR, but he was in a frame of mind in which all memory from that time or even 15 minutes prior (it has been reported) to his waking up was erased. Alcohol and drugs can impair decision-making functions in the brain without incapacitating the motor system.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Perhaps. If it were Friday morning, however, before the disappearance was discovered, why would he be asking? I have no good answer to that question. It's also worth asking whether the account is accurate - perhaps this student has a grudge against CR. Note the potentially gratuitous...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I'm suggesting that she may have been in a frame of mind in which decision-making capacity effectively did not exist, i.e. in which no conclusion about her thoughts can be drawn from her actions.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    So now we know who Salzmann meant in saying she was seen by 3 people other than CR after the Smallwood encounter.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I don't recall having ever read a MSM story say anything more than "X would not comment," and especially not writing a story devoted to and further characterizing that lack of cooperation with the individual news source.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    You're assuming that she was in a frame of mind to even be able to decide what was appropriate. With a certain amount of impairment, questions of whether consent has been given become irrelevant because one is no longer thinking clearly or at all.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    You don't know that they weren't, only that they encountered this one individual on (indeterminate date).
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    How do you know they were men?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I believe that "a group of the frat brothers" is incorrect. We have no idea who was present, though they have been described as friends of JW's (which may give credence to "frat brothers" or may not), friends of LS's (which could describe the same group), and perhaps residents of SW. The only...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    "Amnesia" is completely consistent with certain drugs he quite possibly was using. And again, drugs might explain why LS ignored her friends or not have had any specific intent to either get away from or be involved with CR - she may not have been in any rational frame of mind at all.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Do they have no right to choose which media sources they talk to, and when?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Alcohol and perhaps drugs. As I said above, I think the "morning" report probably refers to June 4th, but if it does refer to the 3rd, it would be strange as my understanding is that LS was not "discovered" to be missing until sometime after noon (and before 2 or 3?).
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Another report has that as the date. It also seems to line up with the Indy Star article linked above, which too is ambiguous.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    In the comments section, yes, but not the article, afaik. More discussion may be warranted, but the name has not been mentioned to my knowledge.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    either way, he is seeking to deflect attention from CR, which is his job

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