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Or maybe there's one or two holdouts that the rest are trying to convince and they said they'd have the judge clarify, which he couldn't. Darn, I hope he doesn't get off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So do we know the question or just that the judge can't answer it? And if we aren't told, do the attorneys know it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I wonder if the TBI guy is there as a 'just in case' there's a verdict. Just like many of us may believe Fridays are great verdict days. I dunno-- I don't trust anything from the TBI after this case.

Regardless of the verdict, I hope TBI is asked hard questions about this case and their many, obvious failures. And that people are held accountable.

Did the jury see a photo or photos of ZA around the arrest time? With that meth face and much different build, he looked downright scary. During the trial, even beyond being put in a suit, he looked like he could be the good boy next door.

My husband said I had to turn her voice off-- he couldn't listen to it any longer. :)

I used to be a sales trainer and her speaking style reminds me of some of my worst students. Humans react to story-telling, not a fire hose of sentences.

What is this about trying to fish? I missed that part.

I'm still haunted by that verdict.

My head just exploded!

I missed the Dad's testimony. Was it just one question? And did he say he did see the barrel?

Assuming you think this whole group is guilty, do you believe it was premeditated for a while (even if for a day or so), meaning they picked Holly and planned out the who/what/when/where for the abduction? Or do you believe it was spur-of-the-moment, like they were so meth'ed out that morning...

I've been trying to explain this crime/trial to my husband and just cannot find the right words to describe the defendant, witnesses and the things that have been brought up. Simply that so many just weren't very phased by raping, killing, dismembering and dumping someone has my mind scrambled.

So these searches happened 10 months after she disappeared? So he's a scumb@g who's guilty of a lot of crimes, just not this one.

I would suspect folks like this are always lurking around the woods for any variety of reasons. Seems like being in the woods would be a norm.

That boiled my blood yesterday when he callously said there was nothing to see there since they all alibi-ed each other. Like these upstanding young gentlemen would always tell the truth and couldn't possibly be involved w/ this. :facepalm: <modsnip>

It would break my heart for my grandparents to every have had to testify on my behalf for kidnap, rape and murder.

I'm catching up now on this morning's testimony. Thought I remembered someone saying this TBI agent was dismissed (or something like that) for misconduct w/ this case. Do we know what that means?

The defense atty certainly has my sympathy. She is tasked with trying to defend this man who I believe clearly did it, and she has little to work with. But she's seemingly so bad, I can't help but think we will have an 'Elle Woods' moment from Legally Blond that blows the case up and ZA walks...

I watched the trial feed yesterday & today for the first time. After following so many other trials, I can honestly say I've never seen such a parade of convicts, drug users & enablers in all my life. I'm from a small town in AL where drugs are unfortunately present, but in this TN area it...