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I'm not sure - here's yahoo's article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060924/ap_on_re_us/woman_slain I can tell ya that people here around st. louis are way past sick between this horrible thing and last week's abduction in Lonedell.

An update from local news -- Hall drowned the 3 living children in the bathtub, dried them off and put them in the washer and dryer. Beyond my comprehension.

But apparently, with so many people handling the door, there would have been lots of fingerprints on the latch and door? Were there any results from fingerprints made public?

I came late to this case -- it's really interesting and frustrating. Thanks for posting this interview. I don't think I'd let my child near a guy like McR, creepy, but hard to imagine him with the agility to due this murder. The whole "deserve to die" thing is so over the top - and the two of...

I can see how JR and PR could make a pact and keep up the lie - the consequences would be so severe - maybe in their mind, they excuse themselves for dodging justice because the death was (in their minds) an accident. But I don't think that it would be so easy to keep Burke in the loop of a lie...

Reading all the info about Klonopin -- it said too much could make the user act drunk. What if it was Patsy who took too much, lost her senses, gave some to JB at pineapple time, and whatever the accident, either giving JB too much of the drug, or striking her, then wrote that ridiculous ransom...

Really, he's just a very deranged guy. From those emails to Tracy, he seems to have realized that he had a nervous breakdown, but can't tell fact from delusion. I just hope and pray that the ambulance chasing lawyers aren't trying to concoct some kind of lawsuit againt LE for bringing him back...

But the movie references and the juvenile ransom stuff - is that a socialite writing? Did she ever show a literary side in the interviews? The note seems like the work of someone whacked out, not a socialite hastily jotting a fake ransom note -- Did you notice her many quotes too? "real...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCent...page=1&gma=true This might be all we need to know. JMK's mother tried to kill him, abused him. JonBenet's mother abused her, killed her. (in his opinion) A mother murdering a child does not compute. He will make it not so. Mothers are supposed to be...

I hope we're not going to find out that the family remembers he was sick that year, took to his bed all day and told no one to disturb him for 24 hours, then stuffed his covers with pillows and fled out the window to take a bus to CO, wearing his fleece vest...

Unfortunately, mothers have plenty of opportunity for abuse - if the mom is not stable enought to work, or if the hub wants her to be home, she's got all day to be weird. One case I know, the mom did things like walk around topless or naked in the house during the day, in front of her son...

At least if it was Karr and he was drunk or high or both we'd have an explanation for the rambling nonsense kookiness of the note -- that's a major sticking point for me, since I can't see her brother or parents penning that thing.

The jury is most grand for the party that's exonerated. Like the media, they do try to be objective, but they're still a group of human beings. Presumption of innocence protects, since even grand juries can be swayed by wealth and status on one hand, or by prejudice on the other. Don't most...

Great post -- interesting that PR referred to the pineapple bowl and spoon as a "set-up." IMO, the facts of the case just make it more mysterious. Sure would be nice to get some matching DNA or any other clear indicator of guilt.

Regardless of the note, I'd instinctively run to my child's room to make sure it's true, then I'd go thru the whole house, every inch, looking, calling the child's name, because I wouldn't want to believe the note - I can imagine telling my hub to go one way and me the other - I also might be...

Right, no boundaries between reality and his imagined participation applies to his stories about his mother's death and maybe JB's too -- There are so many good insights into him from this board -- from the examples cited seems there is a wide spectrum of creepy people. I've often wondered why...

This is where the psych labels get tricky. He's apparently not schizophrenic, hearing voices, institutionalized over and over, etc. He doesn't appear to think and act like he's Napoleon or anything so clearly psychotic. He's been able to harbor all his abnormal ideas, while doing his best to act...

I really hope that he never touched his own children. Maybe if he's put away for good, passing the perversion from parent to child will end.

I edited my post some. The psych stuff is from the Hutchens site and from hearing a guy with similar problems (mom exposing herself to him as a child) say that kids "ask for it" regarding molestation relationships. But nobody needs to believe me -- I'm sure there's more to his story - it just...

Now that I've read the W Hutches site, I wouldn't waste time talking to him -- he's in his own private Idaho -- our comments from normal reality won't make any sense to him -- at heart he blames himself for his sick mother's behavior (he can't accept that his own mom could be so evil -- that...