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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    Van Rensburg got photographer Van Starden to take photos as soon as they arrived, and at that point, all watches were there, there was blood on some of them and also blood on the case they were stored in. Later, Aimee Pistorius went to the bedroom and took one of the watches, this was only done...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    By the time Oldwage arrived, Van Rensburg had already placed Pistorius under arrest and put him in the Garage. Not too sure when Carl Pistorius turned up, but I think after Van Rensburg.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    Absolutely, and there are more witnesses to come, including Pistorius's live in gardener Mr Chiziweni and Pistorius's direct neighbors the Nhlengethwas.
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    'The doors'

    I think that's the main door to the bedroom. There was a hole in it, and an airgun right by it. Not much else was said about it that I can remember.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    It was pictured in those leaked photos, but it was at the side of the toilet on the left.
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    Van Rensburg definitely mentioned Carl Pistorius being there, and he also mentioned either Pistorius or his brother phoning a lawyer and that Oldwage turned up. I think I heard him mention the locksmith. I know I heard him mention another cop, sounded like perlan but not sure of the spelling...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    When is a locked door not a locked door? When Pistorius has the keys!
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    As this trial has progressed and witnesses have come forward reporting a woman screaming, and arguing, Pistorius has appeared more guilty by the day, for all of Roux's attempts to argue his innocence. And I have recently seen people positing that Pistorius may have anything from narcissistic...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    I think Pistorius is guilty of shooting someone dead, I also believe he knew who he was shooting, and that they were arguing and she was so threatened that she fled to the toilet in fear. I am no Pistorius fan, I hope he gets maximum sentence for premeditated murder. However, I had a cash...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    I've always wondered why Pistorius posed his locked bedroom door as a problem for him, in his bail hearing affidavit? He made it sound like that locked door prevented him from leaving the bedroom and therefore that he had to get his gun and go right into the face of his supposed intruder. It...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #7 weekend thread

    Those are exactly the questions I am pondering! I spent 2 hours last night with a playback of Van Rensburg's testimony, attempting to screenshot and transcript it (but still having trouble with the translator). 2 hours spent for about 45 minutes worth of actual testimony! It'd take me about 10...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    You are right, I was quite disappointed that that wasn't explained, I have to wonder why Roux didn't go into that more? I'm sure if it had been in Pistorius's favor, Roux would have jumped all over it. I put it to Roux that he only puts it if he has no fear of putting it!
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    You may well be right, I don't know when the photo was taken, what tests had been done before he touched it, but he clearly understands procedure, he was angered by the forensic guy touching the gun without gloves and told him to put his gloves on, which indicates Van Rensburg has correct...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    Discrepancies are to be expected though, I mean, I listened to the trial this morning and can't remember, verbatim, what was said. I try to ensure that comments I make here are accurate, but accept that I may occasionally get it wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, including trained cops, it's...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    There are some videos relating to Botha on youtube. He made a bit of an *advertiser censored* of himself, stupid mistakes. He should have been clarifying points before the bail hearing but he seemed too lazy. I went to the Gemma McCluskie trial and the prosecutor was bang on the nail. Glad her brother was...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    What Roux is doing is par for the course. Will Nel get the chance to question Pistorius?
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    Yes, it is confusing and while it was on, I was taking screenshots and trying (and failing!) to type descriptions for each screenshot. That's why I can't understand why there isn't a straightforward, hones, unadulterated court transcript available, unless I have missed it? Short of playing...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    As soon as Van Rensburg arrived, he put a stop on anyone (excluding police/forensics) there going upstairs, Once Van Rensburg got there, Pistorius, the Standers, Carl Pistorius were not allowed up there. Aimee Pistorius was allowed up there at some point, but only escorted by a cop, and...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    Absolutely, Roux managed to confuse, but didn't take it to its final, ultimate and possibly bloody conclusion (possibly for Pistorius). Perhaps Roux feared taking it to its final conclusion, he certainly would rather question Botha, and Botha is incapable of holding his ground, as seen at bail...
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    Trial Discussion Thread #6 - 14.03.13-14, Day 9-10

    I've just found order of hierarchy of police in SA, and unless Botha was a Col, then Van Rensburg is highest. I don't recall Botha being Col Botha, but Investigating Officer Botha. Van Rensburg was Lieutenant Colonel, therefore I believe Van Rensburg is higher.

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