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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    I am sorry if I was not clear, but I was taking about the following statement being legally wrong, slander or libel, and not about it's proper grammar "It's my opinion that Obama beats his wife." Being entitled to an opinion does not allow me to say, "In my opinion, you are a murderer,"...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    You don't have to post a link to everything. I could safely say that "Obama is President" without posting a link since it's common knowledge, but if I wanted to say, "Obama beats his wife," 1) WS would want a link to avoid being sued for slander (although it's harder for a public figure to sue)...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Adding a question mark after a slanderous statement does NOT make the statement legal. A troll asking, "Did S. cover up the murder?" is just as slanderous as saying "S. covered up the murder." Likewise for saying, "Maybe S. covered up the murder, " or just suggesting it. I did not...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    A cover-up of any crime is a crime itself, and you would likely need to post a link to avoid slandering anyone, especially of a cover-up of a murder/rape. If you were an investigative reporter working for a publisher, and you wanted to write, "Mr. Smith covered up a murder," the publisher, if...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    That NY Times article is 50 years old, but the NY Times is more reliable than Wikipedia which has an interesting article on Peter Hurkos, ESP or psychic, or something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hurkos which takes a negative view of his ESP abilities. The lawsuit, $25,000 in 1960...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Do you have a link that the lead detective in 1975 is still alive, although I don't think it matters? If the lead detective in 1975 was not able to solve the case in 1975, I doubt he could add anything now. Some people on WS have suggested that the police intentionally failed to find some...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    I agree, but in ADDITION to any of Porter's testimony not being used against him at his own trial, case law and the constitution prevents any additional evidence derived from his testimony (the defense will argue all evidence AFTER his testimony) can also not be used against him. In effect...
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    Possible Connections

    It could be that her apartment was in New Carrolton, MD, also inside the beltway in MD. I really don't know that much about the Eileen Kelly case, and I don't think the police or public do either. Often for college students or other young adults, one's voting registration and official drivers...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    I'll try explaining it again, using the Baltimore Freddie Gray death in police custody as an example. You can say you THINK the six officers are guilty. You can say the opposite, that you THINK the six officers are innocent. But you can't legally or seriously say that you THINK the six...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    This is a common, but mistaken view of the 5th Amendment. I don't mean to sound condescending, but you could use a course on law if you are in college or have other opportunities to take a legal course. First, any lawyer will tell ANYONE regardless of guilt or innocence, to take the 5th at...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    FYI - The Freddie Gray (the drug dealer who died after being arrested in Baltimore) case against the six police officers has a similar constitutional problem of trying to force one of the defendants (police officer) to testify against other defendants (other police officers) The Maryland Supreme...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    The grand jury testimony is sealed, but the laws grand juries have to follow, such as the Constitution, are well known; it's not two sides to every story. I would suggest googling "grand jury purpose," since even though there are not two sides to your argument (sorry, the Constitution does not...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Stagnee and Johnson pled no contest and received no jail time and 90 days respectively for perjury and obstruction of justice respectively , for crimes committed in 2015. It's publicly unknown what involvement any of them, if any, had in the 1975 crime or exactly what the perjury was in 2015...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Most likely, everyone testifying at the grand jury had no right to take the 5th at first, because they could not incriminate themselves in the original crime because 1) they were not involved in the original crime, 2) the statute of limitations expired say on unlawful disposal of a corpse or...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Glady Stangee and Amy Johnson already pleaded no contest or entered an Alford plea (no contest more or less) and were sentenced to no time in jail and three months respectively. Amy Johnson is appealing her "harsh" three months sentence, and I don't know what Stangee is appealing...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Hopefully the police know and have evidence, or it's going to be a very difficult no-body, 40-year-old murder case. No concrete evidence, such as DNA evidence, has been released to the public to date, and because of the gag-order (on the prosecution and defense, not us) it's unlikely any...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Just to be clear, regardless if one believes Lloyd or not, he, like anyone, is considered innocent until proven guilty. I think Lloyd's most common story is that beyond looking at the girls at Wheaton Plaza, he did nothing and knows nothing. Despite being a convicted criminal and habitual...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    This is an example of how a vague and/or slightly inaccurate statement gets exaggerated. The original warrant makes it clear that the "relative of Richard Welch" is none other than Lloyd Welch, and it's one of many stories Lloyd told...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    The AP reports that "Bedford County Commonwealth's Attorney Randy Krantz said during a court Tuesday that 69-year-old Leslie Joseph Engleking Sr. has been cooperative since being accused of making false statements to investigators."...
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    Sheila and Katherine Lyon-sisters missing since 1975 - #2

    Given the long criminal history of Lloyd Welch, it's a good bet that he committed many other crimes with many victims, but there is NOTHING in your linked articles that anyone other than Lloyd participated in any sex crime. The Welch family members that recently plead no contest to perjury or...

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