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Oh, I see. I've never had a battery fall out. But then there's the fact that Hannah's phone went dead shortly after her last text... same kidnapper (allegedly) so it's kind of too much of a coincidence, maybe. Sorry if that's been brought up already in this thread (I know it's come up a lot in...

The basketball players... This post is the first thing I've seen about it so I've been trying to find more info. Why did they refuse to give her a ride? Was it because she needed to travel too far? It's so sad how many people turned their back on her that night - her friends (imo), arena...

She apparently texted her friends that she was at 14th and Wertland. The police mentioned that they believe the phone autocorrected mispellings. I read on an older thread that she might have been trying to text "4th and Water". I'm not from the area but looking at a map, it makes sense. Don't...

Bill Warner is only posting pictures of missing girls/women from different states with a similar "look". I don't think all the missing women from VA are blonde. Also, he states that he's only including white women on that list, unless I'm interpreting wrong: "Both victims in the attacks, in...

BBM because it bears repeating.

Thanks for posting this. There's stuff here I've never seen before. What does "could not be excluded" mean? Does that mean they couldn't tell if RAT's dna was on the shirt or that it was definitely someone else's dna but they're just not excluding him for other reasons (2 men's dna?)...

I get what you're saying. I think everyone should be careful in general in life. We live in a world of predators. We also live in a world of sharp objects, germs, bombs, etc. Bringing up a discussion on how women can protect themselves from predators in the wake of a girl being murdered by one...

I get what you're saying. I think everyone should be careful in general in life. We live in a world of predators. We also live in a world of sharp objects, germs, bombs, etc. Bringing up a discussion on how women can protect themselves from predators in the wake of a girl being murdered by one...

Correct me if I'm wrong on who said this but I think it was Morgan Harrington's mother who rightly (imo) pointed out that sometimes it's not enough for a woman to do things to protect herself, sometimes they need help. For example, a woman can't always find girlfriends to walk her home from the...

Thanks. I'm glad that more than one family is seeing some justice but I've been hoping (as I'm sure everyone else here is) that some of the others who are missing loved ones would find some closure as well. Time will tell... (hopefully)

RIP Hannah. Kudos to LE and the community for working together to find HG AND succeed in putting a serial killer/rapist behind bars. Did they find anyone else's bones yet? I've fallen far behind...

The teeth might not be intact. Someone yesterday posted photos of what happens to bodies after vultures feed on them - they get picked apart, even the teeth get pecked away. Everything might be in pieces (sorry to be graphic). Edit: Here's one of the links...

Not if the victim is still alive.

BBM. I know. It seems incredibly stupid. But considering it was a football game night he might have drank way too much to realize he was being a nuisance and calling attention to himself. Drunk people don't usually realize how annoying they're being.

Thanks! Reading that RAT/JM thread is much easier than scavenging these threads for crumbs. This is mindblowing. I hope it all comes together to give these (and maybe more) families some closure.

They haven't commented on that. They haven't even said who's body/bodies they found.

I'm only slightly familiar with the Alexis Murphy case... Can anyone tell me how this might be related to JM when someone (RAT) has already been convicted? Someone posted that AM's hair and blood were found in RAT's trailer. Is it true that in the beginning RAT was implicating an african...

It amazes me that this can even happen. That murderers can manage to "find" each other to commit crimes together. Do they have a secret handshake?

Thanks so much for posting this here!

I've been wondering about this too. I'm thinking maybe an empty ziplock bag found in his car or apartment containing traces of a date rape drug. Pictures/videos are a good theory too though. Or maybe a witness saying that he makes a habit of getting girls drunk for the purpose of taking...