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bolded by me. This camera would be somewhere between the parking lot and the brewery right? Because I know some have guessed he could have entered in the water at the lot and fought drowning until he got to near the brewery.

snipped by me. You could very well be right but I also want to say this, there were so many "flukes" from that night leading up to Shane's death which is why I can understand anyone's skepticism.

Thanks for posting this story. It's interesting to me b/c I said before that I could see something like this happening if Shane had been there with friends. An accident that stemmed from goofing around/hanging out with friends. In Shane's case, we do not know if he interacted with anyone in the lot.

ChuckMaureen, you may have said this already but I want to be sure, where do you believe the actual drowning [not necessarily point of entry] happened? Near where he was found or closer to the lot?

Jonesy I remember you said before a source told you weeks before Shane was found that cameras were being checked from Venice island to see if they could see Shane in the water.......do you know where this camera or cameras are at? I wanted to know if we could rule out potential spots that he...

CP said it all and echoed my concerns, there are so many things that are questionable and dont make sense. Apparently there isnt much of a current at the bottom of the river. So I really feel like where the keys were found is where they hit the water. So either when Shane somehow got into the...

bolded by me, I think the same could also be said for an accident, about him knowing the area and knowing not to get close to the water. I see what you're saying about the suicide angle not making sense, I said the same thing from the beginning, but then part of me thinks that suicide gives...

momthebomb, I agree with your post and ChuckMaureen said it too, I feel like Shane probably entered the lot under his own reasoning, even with him being drunk, instead of it being a situation of him wandering aimlessly. And for me I dont think he went near the water to pee. heartgoesout, I agree...

I mean friends or neighborhood people that he wouldve been hanging with at the end of his time at Kildares. The reason I believed no one came forward about the end of his time at Kildares is based on the parents early belief that Shane left the bar in good condition. Shane's uncle said they got...

Maybe Kevin can clarify but what you are saying is making sense when it comes to that 10 ft vs 30 ft confusion..........sounds like they were 10 ft from the wall which is equal to 30 ft from the river bank. An accident from the embankment and the keys ending up 30 ft out aka 10 ft from the...

This is one of the reasons I am suspicious about this being an accident. I feel like the keys were too far out [30 ft out] from potential entry points and from where Shane was found [10 ft out]. It makes me think the keys were thrown which would probably indicate a suicide, or less likely but...

This is something that still annoys me to no end. I understand Kildare's is going to lie about Shane's condition and I think Shane's original group wasn't with him toward the end of the night. But Why has no one come forward saying they saw Shane or were with Shane toward the end of the night...

We have only mentioned it as a possibility, Just like the other possibilities that could have happened.

Maybe but I still feel like alongside the canal would have been his walking path to avoid Main St but like you said we will never know Seems like when it comes to drowning it's difficult to determine between accident, suicide, and foul play. Without witnesses or trauma, foul play would go...

If he was up on the ledge then maybe. Any other parts of the lot I dont think his whole body would have completely fallen in the water and led to a drowning. And as Im thinking about this, I think again about how the keys were so far away....ugh So while I think an accident could have happened...

I think it was unnecessary for Kildares to keep emphasizing the relative thing though. It seemed like they were just doing it to make themselves look innocent, like our staff would never do this to a relative, or to even take the focus off the bar and more onto it being a 'family issue' of a...

If it was in his jeans pocket, I think it's very possible the phone would stay in his pocket during a jump/fall into the water. Jonesy out of curiosity, only if you want to answer,,,, what does your family member[s] that was close to shane think happened? I am curious to know what a friend...

These thoughts still run through my head too, how did no one see him??? Is there anyone unknown or shady that he was interacting with in Kildare's??? WHat was he doing/who was he with around the time he bumped into something at Kildare's? I will always ask these questions and more. And always...

Strangely enough even though it was originally at the bottom of my list,I am starting to feel this may have been a suicide, with alcohol and any other substances contributing in addition to any problems Shane may have been going through,,,,, family, friends, girl problems, boy problems, whatever...

Bolded by me.......same thing I thought, at the very least they should be held responsible for lying and hindering an investigation. I don't think they handled Shane's disappearance like humans. And I think the 10k pledge was because they were under fire by the public and looked at closely by...