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  1. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    Yeah I think we all understand what he’s saying at this particular moment. My questions to him would be something like, then how did he know: 1) Shannon Gilbert (he called her by name) would turn up missing in the next few days? 2) major timing issue: because SG was not missing at the time...
  2. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    This is my favorite quote from the judge about the 911 recording that SCPD kept trying to say was part of their investigation for LE purposes & the contents can’t get out to the public… judge responds: “Shannon Gilbert's 22-minute May 1, 2010 call with a 911 operator - has been publicly...
  3. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    WINDSOR, very true, nothing at all can be ruled out. I explained further that is why it cannot be ruled out that dr.PH actually did give her the injection he claimed he did, & it just wasn’t found due to decomp. I personally believe she was injected with something like ketamine maybe. Police...
  4. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    Haha! Sounds like the MOST POWERFUL people in that county need to be OUTED, right? I mean if he has “no friends” in that county, that is probably a good thing, right? It appears as though these powerful people are only powerful because the public lets them get away with their shenanigans. If...
  5. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    Again… we now know SG was not in a drug induced state & had no drugs in her system even though dr. PH said he injected her with medication. Dr. PH either lied, or the ME report is a lie. Neither of those two scenarios is good. I have a degree in criminal justice & I have seen some shady ME...
  6. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    For those re-reading this thread… it was determined (through whatever testing they used) that Shannon Gilbert had no drugs in her system when she died. And she also had not performed any prostitution the night she was killed (according to the “John”) I believe the family and most people would...
  7. IndieCindy

    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    I’ve been going back over this thread again & noticed this post so I thought if anyone else was RE-reading this & had wondered the same thing as quoted above I believe the answer is this: ->because none of the murdered victims died by stabbing. According to all reports the women all died by...
  8. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    Yep: Correct. Exactly what I was saying. Perhaps you read my post wrong? & Yes, I have read the threads. :) I read the reporters info. I read the Old newspaper articles. I’ve read various links. That’s why I was basically asking in my long post: “WHY” was there still discussion on the items he...
  9. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    Sorry if my post seems argumentative , they are not meant that way.. merely debating. I think everyone had good info & sometimes it takes group discussion into all areas to come up with something that can be used to help solve the puzzle. This particular case though is probably only going to be...
  10. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    That is the first time I have heard the story like that. The actual people he talked to said that he said that he stated he could only do about 10 miles a day... and he wanted to hike the AT while he still could. Now this story (at the DNA site) gives a different spin to what he said to other...
  11. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    Did he ever say what the debilitating illness was? For me it’s osteoarthritis. It hinders my ability to do too much anymore. NotTalking just aches and pains but ability to move. So my question is more along the lines of : did he actually NAME the illness? I just never could find anywhere he...
  12. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    Sorry my posts are soo freakin long. :eek: Geez did you read all that above until your eyes crossed? OK- so Here some things I checked out and it didn’t involve water bottle brands, watches, tents etc... ;) if that sounded sarcastic it’s not meant to be only trying to steer the conversation to a...
  13. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    I’m just now catching back up after checking on my bison herd, no new babies yet! Ok so please no one become offended at my comments please, I do not mean them to be offensive or to attack anyone for anything. But can we recap? 1) he spent cash. Police checked For accounts. So ATM’s seem like a...
  14. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    Wouldn’t that show up in the lab work they did? I believe if he had any disease, it would be listed as a “contributing” factor to the death. I still feel Rhabdomyolysis is a viable disease since it’s rare, and symptoms are in line with ME report, and can be missed as the underlying illness that...
  15. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    There were in fact loose pages. Looked like they had been ripped out of the little notebook. Looked like they had been trashed because they had some stains on them like someone spilled a drink or something on them.
  16. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    I don’t think Ben or Bilemy is anywhere near his name, but just in case someone thinks there is something into it, there ARE instances I found that exact spelling in old newspaper articles throughout the US & Canada. And here is a link to a grave in Florida the most similar spelling I could...
  17. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    I believe the abuse was mentioned by the reporter doing the story and also CCSO. “Ben” said that when he was a teenager that his father took him out in the yard and tried to fight him. The link, to the story has been posted several times throughout the forum already.
  18. IndieCindy

    Identified! FL - Big Cypress Natl Preserve, Male hiker, "Denim" & "Mostly Harmless", Jul 2018 - Vance Rodriguez

    My personal belief based upon the findings in the ME report is this possibility: “Rhabdomyolysis is a condition in which skeletal muscle tissue dies, releasing substances into the blood that cause kidney failure. Rhabdomyolysis is usually caused by a specific event. This is most commonly injury...

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