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In my honest opinion, I don't think Grice was a government informant, but it is a strong possibility he is now and has cut a deal. There may or may not be others involved in the murder, however, may be in additional criminal or antigovernmental antics.

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I think you may be right, Grice was worried about DNA evidence after being buried if I recall correctly. I think he did injure himself attacking the victims and was worried he bled on them or other items buried.

Yes, that would be good.

It would be interesting to see the jail visit log.

That is something to think about wanting her maiden name to be a brand, and carried on for future generations. I too wonder how the children of the 4 murders are doing and what their thoughts are.

I wonder if the Rickman name being associated with to much negativity was the family as a whole, or just Wrangler?

WOW!! Thank you for this information I did not see it earlier. This tells of an extreme abuse by TA and WR for years and no family member was safe from the harassment.

Do we know if the grandmother was TA's mother or Wrangler's grandmother on his father's side? The grandmother may have thought the plan Wrangler told her to kill VB was so outlandish she dismissed it as such. She may have also been use to TA's crazy rants. Oklahoma will determine the placement...

Thank you this is good information.

The area's low population is one reason TA would be asked or accepted on the volunteer boards, she is also a lifetime resident and her family has been in the area for multiple generations. I recall it was mentioned TA's farm is in a trust, she won't be able to mortgage or use it as collateral. I...

MOO. TA's son still has custody, unless he is sent to prison or a judge removes the kids from his care, he will still have the kids. That is a win for TA, in her screwed up mind. I know she wouldn't let him take the kids one time and LEO was called and sided with her. But, we have to remember TA...

I feel she still believes and supports the sovciv mindset and lifestyle. In my opinion she is only distancing herself to not be associated with the murders. She also does not want the state to be looking removing her children from her care if she had knowledge or participated in the planning of...

That in my opinion is a perfect description of TA, she feels totally justified in killing anyone that opposes her. No crime is too small or too big, and she has zero remorse. I would be interested in knowing her upbringing, if this is a generational mindset and actions, or if she was raised in a...

If I recall correctly it is CT who is a butcher. It will be interesting to know if they found a hacksaw or meat saw.

Farmers and ranchers often keep old broken chest type freezer in the barn to store feed for horses and livestock. It keeps the feed safe from varmints.

Yep, we don't play in Oklahoma.

The son and daughter could be managing the land, they may also have hired hands or other family members willing to oversee the cattle, crops and harvest. On the previously mentioned suit, they are usually not filed unless a payment or several have been missed. Charging fuel, seed and feed is not...

It is going to be interesting to see what all comes to light.

GRT and SteveP, I agree with you both. The women were not shot and attacked with a hammer and stun guns were purchased after research for ones that would inflict the most pain. These two incidents imply to me TA wanted to cause physical and emotional pain. In my opinion TA want to torture VB in...