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I agree that there was probably no sex the night of the murder but in cases of rape, statutory or otherwise people are prosecuted without physical evidence. Even when the victim denies there was contact. I'd assume if they did have sex there was some talk about it through text or something

LE must have proof of something due to the charges. This could be due to video recordings, text messages, phone pings, and alibis. It's not just due to what DE and NK have said or not said. What we know for sure is DE is the one charged with murder and abduction. I do wonder though if they...

Doesn't look bothered by anything except a major crotch itch

I in no way think NL had parents that didn't love her or care about her if anything i think it was the opposite. Not wanting to get down on a kid that had already been through so much. Wanting to say no to her as little as possible because they didn't want to see her upset. Not thinking in a...

There's also a post on Fb where her mom is sticking up for her against people that are talking down to her and NL says to her mom shut up mom i got this. NL seemed to talk to her parents however she wanted. Doesn't mean she deserved to be murdered but I don't think they had much control over her.

I'm in total agreement with you. I think there is a reason that each is charged with what they are charged with. Not just based on what NK has had to say. There is obviously evidence we are not aware of yet that make LE think DE was the murderer and NK helped.

Kinda sick to protect someone who didn't care about the life of a 13 yr old girl.

I have a question about NK being out of the general population in jail. I can't remember the exact wording but it was a long the lines of her being naive? Is this a normal reason?

I'm thinking this is where NK comes in. We could be wrong even assuming that NK knew the full extent of the relationship between DE and NL. DE could have just said this little girl is obsessed with me and won't leave me alone and she is threatening me. NK being who we have seen her to be said...

I'm thinking this side hug thing is all about not seeming like a pedophile. He seems more embarrassed about anyone thinking he was sexual with NL than a murderer.

Unfortunately I would assume that time was different combined with who the person was. Some girls are sexual at a younger age than others. I know I was. I don't want to speculate on NL but I know i was because I was taken advantage of as a very young child and I thought it meant i was wanted...

I totally agree with you. She was obviously under 18 in my eyes. Just wondering if it's something that came about instead of DE prowling for an underage girl.

Tootired I posted the same thing before you and I couldn't agree more. I think that most people aren't getting the vibe that DE was a pedophile because he may not have been in the "traditional" sense. This might be where he thinks the truth will set him free.

One more thing for parents that think their kids are safe on Facebook because they are friends with them on there. In the settings of Facebook it is possible to hide certain posts from a list of people you don't want to see them even if they are your friend. So just because you are friends with...

I also noticed someone posted a pic of NK dressed in a Dr Who costume and she was very into drama. My step daughter is into all of that and I have noticed lots of her drama friends are into role playing, cosplay, and an abnormal amount of them identify as cutters. I'm growing more and more...

I may get crap for this but please understand i am not blaming NL or saying that an 18 yr old with a 13 yr old is at all ok. Does anyone else think it's possible that NL was the one that originally contacted DE because she thought he was cute and she wanted an older bf? Since many of us think...

I'm thinking there was at one point and DE insisted she take it down and not do it anymore. I'm thinking that's what possibly started this whole thing. I have a feeling NL thought she had her parents wrapped around her finger and didn't feel the need to hide things other 13 yr old girls would...

Thanks! Good to be here.

I think that DE met NL on one of those groups Nicole was a part of on FB. Nicole seemed to like to take screen shots of conversations, post that she was in a relationship and in love even if she hadn't met the boy, and seemed to have no fear of what her family or parents knew about it. I wonder...