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I have no clue, Im 800 miles away. All I know is protical here, and the entire door would have taken on sight. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

I think a damaged door will let them live it every day as they enter their sanctuary that provides peace. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Okay thats fine, but why wouldn't a church just change out the door hardware? Where a murder happened, the murder entered through that door? That left scars for everone who exited and entered to relieve that every day? Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Thank you Sparky, Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Thank you Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

I agree 100% I see them try. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

It still does not negate the relevance. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Great, can you please ref. Your info as to the replacement. TIA. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Obviously you don't see the damage to the door hardware that would be expected for the marks. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Precisely. Night Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

What I find most strange in this pic is the facing right side of the lock area. If in fact they beat it to the 45 degree angle, which shows marks on the left side, why isn't that door lock/handle showing damage? Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

I.e. ya can't just push it open or breach the outdoor lock Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Thats why I don't get this whole set up. But of course I could be wrong. Push bars are set for fire code. They have to be disengaged durring opperating hours. Which means they would have been engaged when perp entered that door Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

It fits with the perps staginging a robbery and nothing more. They would need breach the door from the hinges as push bar doors lock from the inside. Its not a simple push of the bar normally, I cant say here but most have a hex key or star key that opens them from the inside Sent from my...

And yes the cocktail was needed[emoji99] Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Off topic.. not over time. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

West coast or other continent. Just curious don't want OT Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

There is info in those messages and in the interviews. I think the family likes. And I mean "believes" they know who the perp is. When I say "like" I don't mean ""like"" they like this person as a probability and likely more than an average suspect. Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Back on phone, fat fingers sorry for the spelling Sent from my LGAS323 using Tapatalk

Chaching....! Not to make light... its damn near inconceivable. I've been on so many calls, with so many weapons from gasoline to high powered rifles, skrew drivers, a feying pan, list goes on. This peron, in this get up, intended to murder Missy and was capable of doing it aside from the body...