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Been following this case avidly (love Carl Steinbeck!). Can anyone clarify..did Charlie know of Donna's plans to flee to Vietman a week after he was found guilty? Or did she plan to flee without his knowledge, abandoning him and leaving him to discover from his prison cell after she and Harvey...

I thought it was really clever of one of the parent's to refer to NC repeatedly as just a number. I was sorry he had to hear of the pain, misery and loneliness they are enduring as this would be like oxygen to him. This is exactly what he strove for. The girl who was friend's with Joaquin...

Maybe she'd just run out of steam after months of obsessive planning and going over every detail and possible outcomes in her head. Pretty mentally (and of course physically) exhausting. Maybe her "thinking skills" had taken a long, overdue holiday!! P.s. Agree that when she broke into...

Did you see the state of the house when the police came to arrest her. What a nightmare! If that's not a warning to think twice before embarking on large home project, I don't know what is..

Wow was not expecting 24 years!!

I believe he wanted to die so (IMO) he did not get what he wanted either. He will live a long, miserable life. I do believe that for people like him - even with his very bad start in the womb/in life - the death penalty is too quick. I also believe he got pleasure from seeing the pain of the...

I wonder how much sympathy LL received from family/friends each time one of these traumas occurred. I also wonder about the shared closeness/bonding that would inevitably happen amongst the circle of nurses working in the same units. These tragedies must have resulted in a close bonding...

Maybe he's got so fat that he can't get into the prison van :D

Oh - I added some emojis above but didn't show up! Ah..just found..will take me time to remember how to use the site again :rolleyes:

Hi all my old Websleuth buddies. Hope you are all well and masked up :) How will our "My head's All Over The Place" friend plead tomorrow. Has to plead Not Guilty, right?? Wonder how he looks now. Fatter and more dishevelled than ever no doubt! :eek:

Hi all! Been a long time! My goodness - I didn't expect this but am so pleased. I never thought there would be enough evidence to prove he murdered her as she was cremated. Wonder how the detectives got the evidence together but well done to them. Although obviously tragic, Diane's family must...

Hmm...I was thinking that the jury won`t have a problem with a joint guilty verdict. Even if like me (but not everybody of course) feels OM should get a lighter sentence, it doesn`t change the joint guilty of murder verdict. Reflection of the long term abuse and motive - which was mainly at...

The judge and I need to brush up on our football rules :notgood:

Hi Alice - don`t take it literally lol. It`s a football term when a players misbehaves during a game (a foul) so he gets a warning - a red card! SK was warned - her last chance to shut up with the snivels :banghead:

Again - not exactly sure what I can post in public, so... Happily (very, very happily in fact), the jury were told that there is no evidence of mental illness and the jury must not speculate. They must judge purely on the evidence they have heard. He went on to say that mental illness is no...

Yikees Tortoise, the four of us who meet every day are split down the middle on this one to be honest. I believe them both to be guilty of the final act and certainly OM was involved in the last couple of weeks of the interrogations. However as I said before, I believe he would not be where he...

Hi Tortoise, When the question was passed to the judge and put to SK (today you said it (water bombing) was after the video, last week you said it happened before the video, SK was silent - clearly didn`t know how to answer that one - so the judge then said...or are you saying it happened both...

Just quickly for anyone thinking of coming tomorrow - prosecuter will be about another 1-1 and a half hours tomorrow, then the defence speech starts (unsure which one!) SK was given a "red card" today by judge as cried loudly and called out when accused of murdering Sophie during summing up...

Oh and also I wasn`t there right at the end on Friday, but apparently SK said she wishes she had recorded *everything * because EVERYBODY LIES :thinking:

Today - the main point was at the end when the death of Sophie was discussed. SK`s latest story is that she was there by the bathroom when Sophie was being water boarded (in bath, dressed, saucepan and towel). She was all over the place with the sequence of events and details. Her story is...