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  1. Beetlegeuze

    FL FL - Sylvia Pagan, 34, believed to have been abducted during Amber Alert by Jovanni Caceres Steffani, 38, Tampa, 13 May 2024

    Hi, I've been feeling all sorts of things since finding out the guy (most likely) responsible for Sylvia's death was my child's football coach. We only met the man twice but while waiting this morning for training to start, he didn't show and rumor had it he had died. Looking for his name only...
  2. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    It is truly mindboggling how much time this takes and I don't even know the victims or their families personally.
  3. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I found out about this because of some Facebook creeping and I concur with you Mavley, I hope they keep a very close eye on him just in case he wants "the easy way out". (Not saying this counts for anyone and everyone who takes their own life but for KY it would be imo.)
  4. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I've been gone for a while but never forgot about these 2 girls and I'm happy to see people are still active here :) I'm curious how things will go tomorrow.
  5. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline?cid=marketing_search_Programs_Nightline Nothing new really but happy to see it's still getting attention. (Can't seem to link directly to the video, apologies.)
  6. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I'm obviously hoping this scenario won't happen but can anyone tell me what would happen if they don't find enough hard evidence on time when the court date for burning the car comes along? I don't think I've ever heard of/read about a case where someone is incarcerated for one thing but being...
  7. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I'm still 50/50 on the FL side of things, that's why I was debating whether or not to send her a message. My problem believing anything she says is I can't find any proof that she really was in contact with him. But of course I'm nowhere near where all of this took place, it's a gut feeling I have.
  8. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Also for Scout87; If you go all the way to the bottom there are like 4 comments from people on Facebook and there's a girl there called Crystal who is commenting too, not the Crystal being mentioned as the gf of JC. Plus this comment was made in November and as far as I can see on Facebook she...
  9. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Indeed, tons of respect! I know they get trained and all but how do you keep your cool with "people" like him... I mostly wanted to message FL but didn't and now I can't seem to find her anymore on Facebook. Then again, I think you're spot on when it comes to getting the truth or just another...
  10. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I'm surprised in a way he reacted.. I've been wanting to contact several people on Facebook who are somewhat involved in this case but for some reason I don't "dare" to.
  11. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    This was my first thought too when reading he was in the backseat. Maybe the brother tried to "sneak him away" because he probably knew people/police would be looking for him since he was most likely the last person with Jessica.
  12. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Once again I agree with you. My initial feeling was the head thing (I don't know much about these sort of fights), it made me feel real uneasy to watch.
  13. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wUsRWPw2fYU What in the actual .... didn't think I could be more creeped out by him but I was wrong. Look how he's going for the head only.
  14. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Just to clarify this for myself; KF was the ex-gf whom was strangled/punched awake/strangled etc? And then CM was the pregnant ex-gf who he also tried to strangle + made confessions to? It's very hard to compare the place where I live with the US, if this had happened here somehow you would...
  15. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Obviously I wasn't there but I feel the same. In my (creative) mind he wanted to "hang out" with her and try to talk her out of the restraining order. Then something went wrong, maybe she said something along the lines that she was done with it all, and he snapped. Her meeting up with him in my...
  16. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    I'm guessing I did something against the rules, my apologies if that's the case.
  17. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    This is all speculation but my gut feeling is that she sort of adores/adored him in certain ways and might be making up things. My guess also is she did this picture thing without him knowing so it could very well be he was in jail at that time. (Isn't it creepy how many people liked that...
  18. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    So that reporter lady blatantly proclaimed it was her who figured that out? Not cool. (Might sound petty with all that has been going on but still.)
  19. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    Indeed, he told them everything he knew and didn't feel like sharing this with the media, which is his good right if you ask me.
  20. Beetlegeuze

    MO - Kara Kopetsky, 17 - 2007; Jessica Runions, 21 - 2016; found deceased - *ARREST*

    That's indeed more likely than my hypothesis. I think I should stop looking at that picture because now I'm seeing what could be a skull. My mind plays annoying tricks on me. (Adjusted contrast.)

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