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Okay, I'd be wondering what signs I had missed!

It's clear you guys don't think it's the case she is remembering she was more shocked than she was at the time. That's fine, we all interpret what we read differently. As I said, this is just my opinion based on my experience in my psychology studies of what we learnt can be the case with...

If it was recorded at the time then yes I agree. If this is her looking back at it years later, may have been influenced by what she now knows. JMO

I wonder if this is the position the defense will approach from: (1) a dysfunctional hospital (chaos, stress, short-cuts being taken) (2) a nurse who is different from the other nurses. Stands up in the crowd. Different sex or age or class. More than average intelligence. Big mouth, critical...

I firstly think the doctor is naturally viewing the situation in hindsight, and we know from research that does change perspective. Things that at the time were maybe just a bit odd now take on a very sinister twist. Maybe LL had seen this decline happening before and thought it was similar...

The leaving here alive thing I don't really think anything of. LL interpreted him as sicker than the doctor did. I think if LL did say the rest of it in that excited tone then it is very very weird. JMO

The Chester live reporting didn't say it was LL who said this. Just 'a nurse'. I think it's likely to be more accurate than DM.

I don't think they said it was LL who said the last sentence.

No I get what you meant, I more was trying not to answer about why those things aren't as important to me without talking stats! But briefly speaking, I think things like that are likely to occur as trends because the police have combed through all cases to find one's where opportunity was...

I'm very aware the opening posts say nobody is a statistician here so we shouldn't discuss statistical probability. I think it's something I want to know more about and hope experts are bought in. JMO

JMO But I wouldn't be surprised to see some expert statistical analysis bought in on this very subject. What percent was LL involved in? What percent would an average nurse working similar hours at a similar band be involved in? How unlikely is it to occur by chance? Was there statistically a...

Yes sorry you're right, it was just E. I thought I saw it written twice.

I think we have seen some failings. Whether they contributed to the conditions of the baby remains for the defense to prove. But they are failings none the less. -Baby G was left behind a screen with their monitor turned off. -Several parents have complained about lack of hand washing. - Some...

Yes I'm not sure! Tortoise you're usually quite good at knowing the rules around these things! Do you know if the texts are just what the prosecution has presented and defense have agreed? Can they just pick ones which back up their theory? Ah I see you've already answered. Cross posted.

Yeah definitely human nature, and I think it's quite easy to find guilt if you look for it everywhere. With the trials I've followed, I try to find innocence rather than guilt. It's what I would want people to do if I was ever accused of anything. I can be a right emotionless person so I'm sure...

Ah okay! I can't bear to bring myself to give Daily Mail any clicks so never listen. Anyhow, not sure it is a sign of guilt or innocence either way. If she cried throughout some might think it was put on and melodramatic.

Do you think we are seeing all texts about the babies in her care? Am I right in thinking these are ones brought forward by the prosecution?

Being calm and being emotionless are very different things. I also don't think because it hasn't been mentioned she was upset, doesn't mean she hasn't been. Though I'd agree not to such a dramatic extent as when Dr Choc came in. Basically, the absence of evidence isn't evidence.

Where was she described as acting emotionless throughout the trial so far?

What do those of you claiming her texts show no emotion towards the babies expect to see?