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Glad you're all still working on this guys. I do look in every now and then. Wishing AO the best. <modsnip>

I agree. But for some reason I don't believe it to be a planned suicide, I have no explanation why because he fits the criteria. Perhaps it was spontaneous, or unintentional or somewhere between like when addicts don't really care whether they live or die. But then how? I don't know how...

Drinking, self medicating and depression go hand in hand. To many sleuthers this was blatantly obvious, I understand why NU kept the depression hidden. Resources woud've been spent elsewhere and public support may not have been so strong. The PR campaign worked at raising the profile of the...

I have always been against him sleeping in the bin voluntarily, because I wouldnt do it but I'm starting to waiver a little, I have to admit. Arguments for getting in the bin voluntarily: 1.He felt cold, he had his hands in his pockets was he cold? 2.He was hiding 3.He is in the military...

Considering a Lego city reconstruction and quoting myself - I've definitely been here too long! Wouldn't the police have an exact timing of how long the bin lorry was in the HS as on cctv. Assuming the cctv runs 24hours? Also from the cctv isn't it possible that they would've had a fairly...

It's interesting how this case gets under our skin to the point that we are carrying out our own experiments. My son was playing with his new birthday present - a Lego bin truck demonstrating to me the pride of his built toy "it picks up the bin like this, takes it over here and empties it out"...

I agree, unless he was very inexperienced. And I still don't get why it took 20 mins in that area. And paperwork, what paperwork? Putting a tick in a box? Tacos etc are done before and after aren't they? Eating a bacon butty, reading the paper, scratching his arse, dragging the job out...

Sorry Cag, will find a link, I read there was a 20 minute period where paperwork was conducted. Maybe I was mistaken.

Why did it take 20 mins to leave the HS?

Hello fellow sleuthers, the case was becoming so frustrating that I left it alone for a while. IMO the old man picture should be distributed around churches, walking groups, train stations, bus stations, coach companies, garden centres etc. Were there any organised coach trips, gatherings...

IMO 50k is not enough to move your family far far away from an angry dealer or gangster and spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder. Not if you have a family. I don't understand how you could just give a name without having to back it up with evidence. Otherwise the suspect...

But I totally agree that's it is abnormal ans indicates a problem if it is happening on a regular basis

If you really pissed you might, my uncle did on his stag. But it's at the point of passing out and being too wasted to function. When you're young I think it hard to know your limits. Even now I struggle to know my limits.

Sorry if I'm missing something, I'm not the sharpest pencil in the case but why haven't we seen cctv of C walking up the FIRST part of the street that running man goes, where "legs" is? Have I got this all wrong?!

Things bothering me about this case: <modsnip> Is the blue/ black roof car on the photos in your intro ( car A) the same blue car/ black roof on the cctv of 3 the youths? If so maybe this one of the eliminated vehicles. Have all vehicles been eliminated? If there is one outstanding the I...