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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    When you go through his FB postings you'll see he had a wonderfully dark sense of humour. You can see why people love him so much. I also thought that post was ironic given the nature of his disappearance.
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    The TPS has shared that Andrew and Selim were on dating apps to encourage men on these apps to come forward if they know anything or have had strange and off putting experiences. The police now have access to Andrew's apps (they've had this for a few weeks) and they continue to investigate. I...
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    Selim Esen, 44, Toronto, 14 April 2017

    A friend of Selim's spoke about his at the meeting. I attended.
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    The outdoors can definitely be part of "play" - as it is for many gay men, hence the activity in the parks. Many times it is easier to have an anonymous encounter at a bathhouse or in a park, rather than bringing someone into your private space. Some of the men who cruise are married with wives...
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    The outdoors can definitely be part of "play" - as it is for many gay men, hence the activity in the parks....sorry about the double post. The full post follows....
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    Andrew and Selim are bears - I am not sure that is the same thing you are referencing. Gay bears are men who tend towards a little heavy (or a lot heavy) hairy bodies and facial hair. In Toronto these men tend to "play" with each other and meet at bars like the Black Eagle and Sunday dances...
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    I doubt that they were taken anywhere. They are out there in one of those parks. These are large, wooded and full of critters areas of Toronto. Anything could be buried off of a trail in one of the GTA's ravine or naturally forested areas. Toronto has many cruising parks close to where these men...
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    Hello. The attraction would be mutual. I would suggest that the last person or persons to see these men was of a similar type. I recall reading online that the area you reference was not searched by the task force assigned to Project Houston. This could be typical police linkage blindness. I...
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    Andrew Kinsman, 49, Toronto, 26 June 2017

    Both men also have gay male/bear friends in Australia. Andrew was reported to have discussed getting together with his Australian friends over Pride. Selim has friends in Australia on his Facebook page. These men are bears. Both men were attracted to older daddy types: bigger, facial and body...

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