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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    According to the video, the kids would be put two-to-a-cage. :(
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    We have been this road before. There were DNA tests, I believe to ensure none of the kids were kidnapped, among other things. And if any of the girls gave birth, her body would show it to trained medical staff. It is also unlikely that half-starved young women could conceive. Some of them may...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    There is a woman called LAHenna who has a You-tube Channel about the case and who was in court last week. She made videos based on her notes. One detail she includes that I have not seen elsewhere is that during the period when the eldest girl and the oldest boy were left “in charge” of the...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I have followed the Duggar dog-and-pony show some since the scandal about the eldest son. While I think the family is a mess and the kids definitely brainwashed, I also think that Michelle was not always lacking interest in kids who weren’t babies. She seems to have enjoyed caring for the...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I believe it was LT’s brother who reported this, and my thought was that she did tell him she had this reality show fantasy, but that she was just being delusional. — It’s when they begin to develop individual personalities that some people can’t handle it. I had a great-aunt like that. She...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    There is is nurture and there is nature. Some monsters seem to come from decent parenting. Some really wonderful people were controlled by monsters during their formative years. Harming animals is a symptom that apparently all serial killers share. But not all who harm animals as kids become...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    My impression from the Turpin son’s transcript is that he began to work toward a 2-year degree. The Spring 2016 semester is classic gen ed. The previous semesters (except for one college-level course) were clearly “remedial.” In summer 2016, however, he takes an auto mechanics course. THis...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Yes, the differences are fascinating. And I believe that the variations may be seen within state systems as well as between programs in different states. (For what it is worth, my impression of the “separation” between the TCAT program and the more academically oriented classes...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Actually, some TN Community Colleges DO offer mechanics and so forth. It really depends what programs are offered (what degrees, etc.). Look at Chattanooga State for example. https://www.chattanoogastate.edu/academics/degrees-certificates
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Calling the first two years (the “general education” years) grades 13 and 14 is not to devalue the quality of education offered. It just means that US culture is increasingly seeing the need for at least two more years of education beyond the 12 years that culminate in a highschool diploma...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    According to the transcript obtained by ABC news (http://abc7.com/perris-torture-case-eldest-son-maintained-393-gpa/2978384/), J-2 (the eldest Turpin son) began his education at San Jacinto by taking what would be considered remedial/pre-college courses. In Spring 2014 he took one course...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    @claudianunes: The poster was not upset about your question but by my answer. Specifically, s/he thought I was criticizing homeschooling when I was just trying to answer your questions. The simple and quick answer to your question is that usually potential employers and college admissions...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    You seem to have misunderstood what I was saying. I was talking about ADMISSION REQUIREMENTS. I was not disparaging home school education. As you yourself state, homeschool applicants to colleges have to submit documentation. The “diploma from mom and dad” is not enough. The...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Most (if not all) accredited four-year colleges (institutions that grant the bachelor degree) require some proof that the student has either graduated from an accredited school or passed the GED exam. Just a diploma from mom and dad won’t do. In addition, many (if not most) 4 year...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Whether or not families get together over the years when they live apart varies a lot. Cost and the size of families (as well as how “close” everyone feels) may affect frequency of travel even in Southern families. After they moved to California, the Turpins were far away and...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I was disappointed with the episode. SVU did a better job with their Duggar-inspired episode. The Turpin-inspired episode seemed clumsily put together and left some loose threads. (For example, the two siblings being caught in bed together is never followed up.). And the “lets get the...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I agree that it is no excuse, and the sister was not presenting it as an excuse. In fact, she pointed out that she and Elizabeth had been abused also and did not torture their own kids. She also was very clear that Louise would have known that she what she was doing was wrong and that the way...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I’ve finally watched the documentary, and I have to say that the Robinettes were clearly a troubled family. The mother of Louise, Elizabeth and Teresa was sexually abused by a close family relative. In time, she allowed this same relative to abuse her three daughters. According to Teresa’s...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    I agree that none of the relatives should have custody. And I definitely get badvibes from Elizabeth Flores, the one who visited DT and LT in jail and then wanted to visit the older kids so she could report on it all on TV. However, I don’t think the two siblings who have been talking...
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    GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

    Elizabeth Flores (LT’s sister who writes inspirational books) has a book coming out next week entitled Sisters of Secrets: The Story of Sisters Leading Up to the Turpin Case Arrest. Quoting from the blurb on Amazon: “The life story of a Christ-following girl had been written. It...

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