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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #6

    Posting here so everyone can see it before I have to take off for the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjpDkSfivgk&feature=youtu.be edit: I do have to run soon, but I wanted to add that I've watched this on .25x speed at certain points and it was very interesting. For those who have the...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #6

    Look at who Jen has her hands on in that photo, too - just her favorites. IIRC in that photo Hannah and Devonte aren't next to each other, but both are tense with clenched fists. Another observation, one that I'm nervous about sharing... I watched the birthday adventure video a few times, and...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #6

    Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but I think Devonte and Hannah stood next to each other in photos a lot. Not every time, but...often. Just something I've noticed.
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #6

    Living vicariously through the kids is exactly what I thought. Something tells me that the Hart women liked amusement parks and music, so the kids 'got' (had) to participate and have fun with those things too.
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Thank you for this! It's easy to derail a thread, but these kids are still missing.
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Given everything else we've found out, I just assumed it was because Jen and Sarah terrorized the kids into being there - and I wonder if they terrorized the kids about the cops. IIRC, Jen posted about this incident and said that when they heard the crowd from some distance away, they talked to...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Start a timer and see how long 10 minute is - certainly enough for a crying jag to end and start again, probably even more than once. IDK, I don't see it that way.
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    I imagine that the people questioning her must be home-schooling parents themselves, feeling personally attacked. However, it's worth remembering (IMO) that no one knows more about a family's real situation at home than they do, and (especially after THIS story) I wouldn't assume that anyone...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Just a thought: They were driving through the Pacific NW at the height of salmon-fishing season, so IMO there's no way anyone could have dumped a body in (or even near) a body of water along most of their route. Weekends are pretty much packed at the rivers and along the coast... boats in the...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Not OP, but the real issue seems (to me) like it's that we know that the white parents were (and still are, at least by some) given the benefit of the doubt so many times.
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Are you suggesting that these six kids, without exception, were so abnormal that they couldn't do any of the things you listed. All six of them? I don't think people are suggesting here that the kids didn't have problems ongoing from their early life, but that they were extraordinarily isolated...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    First of all - this is a very kind community, and I appreciate you! Second - does anyone else ever use their finger or thumb to cover the mouth/smile in a photograph, so you can just see the expression in the eyes? It's an interesting exercise with most photos, but especially with this...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    Strange that they'd insist on getting a makeover for Lee like that - considering the incident with the mannequins and all. Then I think again of Hannah's missing teeth/tight smile, and the girls' unkempt hair (except Abigail - it looks like someone was taking some time on hers, but then she...
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    CA - Hannah,16,Devonte,15,&Ciera Hart,12 (fnd deceased),Mendocino Cty,26 Mar 2018 #5

    WOW. Drama! The teen girl got more attention from an athlete than Jen did, so she shunned the poor kid for days. And dropping the poor foster kid off at the therapist like that was cruel, almost vindictive. Something I would imagine doing to someone who had made me insanely angry, or jealous...
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    I have two thoughts : first, that I believe Jen probably did reach out to people in need. People who are struggling themselves often have a lot of love and empathy for others' struggles. And sometimes I think it's a cry for help. "I see you - will you see me, too?" Second: unfortunately, this...
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    I figure if there's one thing we could all agree on by now, it's that media (on both sides, of all kinds, online and offline... from television to newspapers) has been fanning the flames like crazy. It's been pretty much :panic: all the time. These two seem like they, how can I say this... were...
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    Ah, you're right of course. Still, it could possibly indicate some kind of cascading series of events over/through the summertime. Something that I'm not sure has been widely discussed, and it probably sounds silly. But here goes - The election actually did have a big effect on my mental...
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    Putting "trust building" down there twice... something happened to destroy trust somewhere. Doesn't this post just about line up with Hannah's runaway attempt?
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    This sounds like an indirect suicide threat to me. Proceed no further with... what? Given the list that she gives out, you've pretty much gotta think she meant 'proceed no further with living.'
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    ACTIVE SEARCH CA - Hannah, 16, Devonte, 15, & Sierra Hart, 12, Mendocino County, 26 Mar 2018 #4

    To add to this... As far as I know, the Sheriff and CPS have only sent people by the home a few times. It wouldn't be impossible for runaways to get to the house unseen if they did so at night. It's probably just a fantasy, of course... but Istill think there's a .01% chance that Hannah and/or...

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