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    GUILTY MI - Charlie Bothuell, 12, Detroit, 16 June 2014

    EXCLUSIVE PICTURES: Inside the hiding place and basement tunnel where missing boy, who neighbor says came and went as he pleased, was found after 'disappearing' for 11 days (snipped from link) A neighbor told MailOnline the home-schooled pre-teen had been spotted out playing basketball in the...
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    GUILTY MI - Charlie Bothuell, 12, Detroit, 16 June 2014

    This bothers me so much: (snipped from link below, underlined by me) Several sources told Local 4 that Monique and Charlie's father very recently had a family portrait made with the couple, their 4-year-old and 10-month-old, but Charlie was left out of the picture...
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    GUILTY MI - Charlie Bothuell, 12, Detroit, 16 June 2014

    Seems the father's idea of 'discipline' was abuse with a PVC pipe til it left bruises and drew blood. His 'nonstressful exercise' program was for Charlie to do 4000 steps on an elliptical, which exercises all the body parts, with NO break in between. Evidently, not even to go to the bathroom...
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    GUILTY MI - Charlie Bothuell, 12, Detroit, 16 June 2014

    Court document: Boy sent to basement without food (snipped from link below): According to the Free Press, the document says Charlie Bothuell V was placed in the basement behind boxes and totes by his stepmother, Monique Dillard-Bothuell, and told "not to come out, no matter what he hears."...
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    GUILTY MI - Charlie Bothuell, 12, Detroit, 16 June 2014

    Hi everyone. Been following along in this case, many strange twists and turns. Was just rereading early news reports, something the father 'reportedly' said was bothering me and I couldn't figure out what. Well.. here tis: On the 17th..... (snipped from link below, underlined and...
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    The Water Tanks

    "The decomposing body of Elisa Lam floated inside a water tank..." (snipped) "Eventually, the hotel maintenance department investigated the water problem, sending a worker to look into the tank, police said. He saw Lam's lifeless body at the bottom." (snipped)...
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    Hotel Cecil Rooftop Access Discussion

    LE has said they used a dog while searching for Elisa during the early days when they found out she was missing. They haven't (to my knowledge) said what kind of dog they used in the search. My guess is that they used a regular search dog, not a cadaver dog, since they supposedly were looking...
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    Hotel Cecil Rooftop Access Discussion

    "Hotel management told CNS that the doors to the roof were locked and had alarms, but that someone could otherwise have accessed the tank." http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/02/elisa_lam_body_found_cecil_hotel_dtla_downtown_los_angeles.php I wish the media would have given the direct...
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    What Do You Want to Know?: List Questions Here

    I'd like to know if there are inner locks inside the shower/toilet rooms that are in the hallways? In some reviews for the Cecil, out on the net, some have mentioned that there were no locks inside. Hoping that isn't part of what Elisa experienced.
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    CA CA - Tina Hoang, 20, Newport Beach, 4 March 2013

    Yep. Further down on her FB, someone said her son is only a month old. :'(
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Agreed, they must have known much sooner. Have been trying to find a news report that mentions what date her family contacted the Vancouver police, who then contacted LAPD... but haven't found an exact date yet. Her family may have made the first contact with Vancouver PD as early as Feb 1st...
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    Hotel Cecil Rooftop Access Discussion

    The door at :06 on the above video.... is that where the stairs/door with alarm to roof access leads to? Or do those stairs and alarmed door lead to the big room in the middle of the roof? Confused, sorry.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Steven and Gloria Cott file class-action lawsuit against Cecil Hotel in L.A. http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/world/elisa-lam-update-steven-and-gloria-cott-file-class-action-lawsuit-against-cecil-hotel-in-la "The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court by Steven and Gloria Cott...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    That guy was full of it. There are also plain regular folks who cannot be hypnotized because they do not 'allow' themselves to be. IMO That's so sweet! The world needs more people like you who really care. My grandpa was not a licensed vet, but back in the olden days everyone in his...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Wish I lived closer, I'd go! Only with at least one other tho, lol.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    If I were a family member of someone who went missing and then found dead, I'd definitely be hiring a private investigator, no matter who the police were. Especially because in this day and age, it seems that there is often 'coverup' of sorts, by many involved in an investigation. Not that...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    What I read in here before about this pic is that they are showing she's wearing that same plaid shirt.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Yep. Kinda makes me wonder how thorough LAPD was with their search dog(s) early on when they did a routine search of the bldg. We know from early links posted that they didn't go into every room with the dog(s) because they didn't have cause, or whatever their wording for that is. Seems like...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    Yep, I agree the access hole on top was big enough for her body to be put into the tank. What I'm wondering about is how they clean those tanks once a year, or whenever they do? Seems like the very top of the tank must be sealed, then there's that access hole on top. There must not be...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #5

    True, it seems that there isn't much checking the facts of the hotel when someone writes an article, much of the same old mis-information just gets copied forward. There is a good article that has done some major fact checking on the hotel, see link below. Says there that the hotel 'used...

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