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interesting Sluggo. More Science is always better! My wife likes to say "Only Math can save you now!" I've been wondering about this whole thing with the jump zone being predicted (the '72 map) using a combination of USAF radar data, and flight recorder data and etc. Based on what's been said...

The News Times, Newport, OR Sept. 5, 2003 William "Wolfgang" Gossett William Pratt "Wolfgang" Gossett, 73, of Depoe Bay died Sept. 1, 2003, at Samaritan North Lincoln Hospital in Lincoln City, following a stroke. He was born July 29, 1930 in San Jose, Calif. He served with the U.S. Air...

Carr has since confirmed that Cooper had the rig on while plane was on the ground, and the rope cutting etc happened on the ground too. I'm not sure what that means about what Tina saw the last time she saw Cooper doing stuff. (tieing stuff around his waist?) .....Oh by the way, do we know the...

JWarner: I've since learned more about the dredging and the use of auger (bladed) dredging there, with some first hand reports from locals on dredging in later years and dumping of spoils at Fazio Bros. Sand Company. Apparently it's done yearly there, which leads to the large sand pile you can...

yes we all bow down before the sluggo monster for his epic work. I was referencing the NOAA weather map 11/24/71 for portland wind speed 10 knots. That's surface wind, so I guess it's not a lot different than the surface wind speed you quoted from up north. (Carr's numbers of 15 knots surface...

I was musing about Scott's supposed recollection of being "west" of 5 Looking at Google Earth, and assuming a jump time of 8:15 or so, maybe Scott mistakenly id'ed interstate 205 as interstate 5...he would be west of 205 on V23 at 8:15 given the times and speed implied by the Jan 72 map. 5 and...

thanks.. on predicting 8:13 thru 8:15 the jan 72 map has flight speed and wind info embedded in it's prediction, right? the AB line is 8:11? and there are two other canopy drift paths. so if you measure the distance (in google earth) along the flight path between the 3 drift paths, and then...

Okay I'm thinking "what-if" if Cooper was kind of in the plane trying to spot Portland lights for deciding when to jump. He wouldn't hang out on the stairs? too risky? So he's seeing Portland as they pass it. Then he would be affected by wind and canopy drift. My NOAA map 11/24/71 says winds...

Sluggo, the presentation of data you've done is truly great, and will really help focus discussion. It's like a Magruder frame-by-frame analysis! I'm focused on the exchanges at 20:20 Do you think it's possible that all this activity is in response to some notification of "probably jumped" Or...

Carr has confirmed in the last couple days that Cooper was seen smoking. In fact Tina lit one for him, and evidently Tina shared a smoke with him while seated next to him. Per Carr 5/27/08 "Cooper only had matches and when he ran out Tina used the ones she had. I would imagine in 1971 they...

obviously I vote yes for what you propose, Sluggo. On another note: Carr seems to be comfortable with information he has, to say that Cooper tried to stuff the money in the chest container, and when it didn't fit, went to the bag + rope solution. So: that puts a whole new light on finding the...

Nice Detail Sluggo. In my mind I'm overlaying a "rig up" timetable on that timeline. Putting a rig on in an b727 aisle must have been a hassle. I'm tall and I hit my head on the overhead stuff all the time. Cooper may have been able to stand up straight. The NB6 looks like you can clip it...

so your calculations show the plane should not have reached Reno then? I mean 353 miles (fuel) vs 523 miles (trip) is a big difference. How did they reach Reno? Did they change the flaps or put the wheels up? I'm not sure why they would have calc'ed Reno as reachable now from what you...

Has someone done the calcs on 727 flying to Mexico from Seattle with flaps at 15/gear down? (with no passenger load). We're relying on the estimate of Scott? or who? at the time of the hijack. Could it have been a lie to force the stop at Reno? and keep it from going international? Is there...

ONLY AS STHIK AS MY ARM AND 8 INCHES LONG I was wondering if "like a flashlight battery" might have been a comment about the labelling. If you go to sluggo's site, with the link he put above, it brings you to the dry cell example photos. I remember the Ray-O-Vac blue/yellow dry cells from...

I was just researching the standard sizes for highway flares. It's hard to say what's standard. 6 inches long seems kind of small, so I'm guessing she estimated wrong. It depends on the burn time, but this is one "standard" I found: 9 1/2 inches in length and three-fourths to seven-eighths...

it's funny JWarner used the word "magic" as Sluggo has used that word before. In thinking about the profile Larry Carr proposed, of maybe a mid-level engineering manager (with other detail to fill it out)....this idea of getting other people to do the heavy lifting etc, maybe fits with that...

Now as we all know, since we all played with those dry cells in the '70s :), that they were just 1.5v, which is much lower than you would need for any detonator like a blasting cap. Although they had nice current delivery. Which is why we loved them for electromagnets, right! In today's world...

Jerry: You're aware of the Paul Cini Air Canada hijack that happened two weeks before Cooper, where Cini had real dynamite and a real shotgun? Paul Cini even declared himself to be IRA. The crew subdued him as he tried to put on the parachute. Maybe Cooper learned that you can't let the crew...

JWarner is making some good points about analysis. I've been looking at pictures of the money and been astounded by how some have still pretty good whiteness (though edges ragged). And how some have apparent bug holes are in them. I would think a specialist would be able to give an opinion on...