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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    I think this thread is going to "get hot" soon. There is a lot going on in the NORJAK world.
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    All, Some guy named Special Agent Lawrence D Carr sent me some information that will allow me to complete my current project. I plan to pull an “all nighter” tonight and see how far I can get. (Sugar is out-of-town, so, I’m allowed to stay up past my bedtime.) I have no...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    snowmman, I am no expert on Flight Data Recorders (FDRs) and Flight Data Acquisition Units (FDAUs) but here’s my read on FDRs: In the late 1960s and early 1970s, new recorders that could retain information about the engines, flight controls, flaps, etc., to fully assist accident...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    All, I got to 35 responses on my poll (on http://n467us.com/ ) and stalled down. Maybe I have fewer readers than the stats indicate, or maybe people don’t like “Instructional Fun.” Anyway, I have put up the IDs on the answer page. Go to the poll page and follow the link to the IDs. Sluggo
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    snowmman, I will get back to you soon. My data has gotten really voluminous lately (partly thanks to you) and I need to find my “FDR History files”. (Flight Data Recorder, not Franklin Delano Roosevelt) :) I have an off-the-top-of-my-head response, but as you are aware, many people take those...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    All, On the old thread I posted a Ground Speed calculation for snowmman. It was in error! I know, it’s really rare for me to make a mistake, but I sometimes do. A nice man who lurks on this thread helped me to recognize my error. He was too polite to just tell me I was stupid, so it took a...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    All, I put something uncharacteristically frivolous on my site today. Someone sent me a morphed sketch (between the 1971 Composite and the 1988 Unsolved Mysteries sketch). I put the image on the site and have nine suspects and a poll to see which suspect most resembles the morphed sketch...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #3

    NO, try http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?forum=21; Sluggo Edited to change nonsensical “Yes” to more logical “No”.
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    Snowmman, I sure don’t get the same “sense” from the obituary, as from Galen Cook’s account of his background. Thanks, as President Bush would say; “Dude, you’re AWSOME!” Speaking of obituaries… A friend of mine was the Obituary Editor for our small hometown newspaper, on his desk was a...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    From my web site: Update 05/29/2008 Cook has released more information on his suspect. The man’s name was released today I an article in “the Depoe Bay (OR) Beacon Online”. The suspect’s name is Wolfgang “Wolf” Gossett. Gossett died Sept. 1, 2003. [More to come.]
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    snowmman, Slow down here. Let’s don’t over-science this thing. Go back to the basics. Yes, the Jan 72 map included all factors, pull high, pull low, no pull, etc. (BTW: The no-pull calculation was 2600 ft along the path of the aircraft, assuming he was in the tucked-in position.) As much as...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    Quote From Larry Carr: Since they were at 10,000 MSL we will use the WS and WD from 7,000. Use 225 deg and 20 knots Using my asa CX-1 Pathfinder (because I have gotten very lazy in my old age) I get: Enter WD = 225 Enter WS = 20 knots Enter Course = 175 deg (the magnetic Deviation is...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    snowmman, I’m not sure I’m following you. There was a phone-patch with MSP so they could have been discussing the possible jump. There would be no Portland Tower Comms. Portland was not a Class C Airspace (there were no Class C airspaces then). They would have been at 10,000 which would...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    On my website right HERE. It is an Adobe PDF file [1,050 KBytes]. Sluggo
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    Jerry, Well, ask and ye shall be given. I have produced a time table on my web page. It is not intended to replace the transcripts and other source documents, but as a tool to aid in understanding them. Give it a look and tell me what you think. [Click Here] to go to the Time-Table. Sluggo
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    Thanks snowmman, flattery will get you everywhere! You know, all the dialog that goes on here is beneficial to the community as a whole. Putting that short piece together was VERY time consuming, but it makes it so much easier to understand what happened, and when it happened (what order it...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    Jerry, :)Pay close attention, I'm giving a test when this is over! :) At sometime prior to 7:41 - last comm. with Ground Control. At 7:37 - may have been wheels off – First comm. with Seattle Center. At 7:40:06 - 305 verified altitude as 6500 feet and climbing, Cooper was trying...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    snowmman, Several things could have affected the flight parameters. The flaps back to 15 degrees. The higher altitude (My Calc was at 7000, they went to 10,000 and then to 11,000 after Red Bluff, CA) would use less fuel. Airspeed was Knots Indicated Airspeed (KIAS), wind conditions could...
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    WA WA - D.B. Cooper hijacking mystery, 24 Nov 1971 - #2

    All, I sometimes forget what I posted on which forum. For those who do not visit the Dropezone.com “Skydiving History and Trivia” forum, I have been working on (since January) a complete description (I have used the term 3-D model) of the 305 flight path. I have amassed a large amount of...

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