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Parents of Gretna teens killed in crash claim poor road design contributed to girls' deaths The parents are suing the county for poor road design. They are asking for a whole grab bag full of stuff, including compensation for lost earnings of their kids.

Gretna fatal crash update: No charges as authorities warn of teen drinking habits Local authorities apparently have decided not to pursue the source of the booze. The one survivor is still not talking and it sounds like a lot of wagons are circled in Gretna. I won't rant; it's all been said...

I just got the book, 'Echo of Distant water' and haven't finished it yet. So far a couple of things Stand out to me: Both Mr and Mrs Martin were on meds for heart issues. It wasn't specific what they were. Also, at about the same time the bodies of the two younger girls tuned up, two other...

One additional thought. Kenneth Martin's photos do not look like a man in good health for his mid fifties. He appears obese and puffy faced. Maybe he drove the car off the road while suffering a coronary.

I was in that area this Summer. Most of the highway on both sides of the river have guard rails. But that may not have been so in 1958. This is one of those cases that have nagging little anomalies. Why for example where the Martins still driving east away from home late in the afternoon? The...

I have to wonder what this woman's husband was doing in the UK? If he was actually doing Intel work someone my have feared giving publicity to what he was working on. You'd still think this could have been better handled.

I stopped posting on here because with all the lawyering up I was worried anything I said could get me in trouble. If this happened in some other location, say in an inner city neighborhood, how many of these good people of Gretna would be clamoring for the guilty to be brought to justice? I...

Gretna's water tower has 'The Great Life' on it. Maybe it needs to be updated to'Don't Snitch'

From what I have read, video surveillance has them spending much of that evening in the school parking lot. Most drove separately and apparently left together. There were pics in the papers of the parked cars of some of the girls covered with flowers. Where did they go from the school? They...

I cannot locate it now but I know I saw an article about one of the victim's moms speaking out for this code of silence to end. I do remember which parent but will not name them as I don't have documentation. While looking for it I ran across this article I'd not seen previously: 'We are...

Could they have disabled the seat belt chime on this car in order to 'ride the bumps' on this road? I think this was a 2017 Ford fusion, is that possible on that model?

Has me thinking, too. Not sure what it suggests although I kind of dimly begin to see what you might be saying Intriguing.

FWIW: Mods please note posts #74 and 75 are duplicates, one needs to be deleted. One thing that needs factoring in is that once LE charges someone it won't end with them being fined or sentenced. I would expect substantial civil penalties in the form of lawsuits, probably from every family who...

'Hypothetically speaking, how do you feel about parents who let drinking alcohol occur at their house but don’t stop 5 teenagers from leaving in a car that then crashes at 90 mph and becomes an incinerator for 4 of the occupants, while the only survivor is the only survivor simply because she...

'Hypothetically speaking, how do you feel about parents who let drinking alcohol occur at their house but don’t stop 5 teenagers from leaving in a car that then crashes at 90 mph and becomes an incinerator for 4 of the occupants, while the only survivor is the only survivor simply because she...

Just a clarification. When I referred to NE as a very 'Libertarian' state, I was referring to general attitudes toward government, not to the party of that name. It wasn't meant to imply this is a bad thing, it's just what is; politicians in this state seem more inclined to take the path of less...

Chief deputy: Gretna community that opened arms to families after fatal crash closes ranks on investigators This is a link to a story in the Lincoln paper. If you scroll to the bottom and click on the comments link you get a feel for some of the local public opinion. Some of these folks think...

Blondie, yes that was me. I don't often post on here now but this story was a little close to home for me. Yeah the Dundee case was a real humdinger, I think the discussion on here ran to several threads. I think we at least helped nudge the cops into cooperation with the Americas Most Wanted...

All the lawyering up might be taking a toll on reporting on this. I attempted to post a comment on the FB page of a local TV outlet and couldn't do it, they probably have blocked comments. Same thing on the Reddit discussion. The last may have been a glitch but I wonder..

The Sheriff's department will in time find out how they got the alcohol. A reward has been posted, if I lived in Gretna I'd be embarrassed that someone had to do that to get to the truth.