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Thanks, LinasK, for this thread...and for all of the work you have done, sharing articles and other links with us. I am really glad to see that Mr. Williams saw justice served - FINALLY. It was rather scary to contemplate what our society could become, if the people who think he was fine, were...

What the hay? The laws of the State of California operate on the same moral framework that a gang does? Hello? With all due respect, has the Sister ever been raped? Ever had her mother murdered? In my humble opinion, 'nuff said on that score... :sick: I think the guy is being macho...

Here is an article about Mr. Williams' fine record on death row at San Quentin: http://crime.about.com/od/deathrow/a/tookie15.htm :sick: Why it is that people want to "save" this lad, is beyond me... He most certainly appears to be one disgusting specimen of 'humanity'. Raw power, in the...

Here is an excerpt, with the full article located at: http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/12985174.htm Williams, 51, was sentenced to death in 1981 for fatally shooting Albert Owens, a Whittier convenience store worker. He also was convicted of killing two Los Angeles motel owners and...

He said in court, I believe, that Shirley Vian and he had together given toys to her children, in the bathroom, while "they" went into another room. I got the chilling sense that Rader felt that Shirley was somehow accompanying him willingly... :eek: Talk about self-delusion! When they...

LOL. I know what you mean. I have thought this in the same way you have, *many times*. <snort> :waitasec: :crazy: Well, as a priest friend has said to me, "Denial is very powerful in the human being." YEOWZAA!!! :banghead: :crazy:

LOL, not really something to 'slap you down' about, IMHO... :D The thing that so fascinates...and horrifies me about this guy, is these kinds of very obvious contradictions that would bother most of us greatly; but that, to him, are evidence of being at least partially a good person. Yes, he was...

I agree with you. A young woman with a father like that, would be at very high risk of incest. When I saw here, about her having nightmares and screaming in her sleep, driving her husband batty, that speaks to me of 'post traumatic stress disorder'. That kind of problem is heavily correlated...

Oh man, I would love to read that one, too! What do you think are the chances that she will, eventually, write a book - her story? I kinda think she will not very likely write anything. However, if she loses all of her money invested in their home, well, I can then see her perhaps writing a...

His first murder was committed 3 years after he and Paula married - and it happened to be the same year that their first child was born. She had their daughter 3 years after that. I think she had powerful reasons to not want to believe that her husband could be BTK. However, having said that, I...