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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    The suitcase angle will be interesting, if that's the big 'breakthrough' the Sun is talking about. And the Mirror. "Reports suggesting Jo’s killer may have removed the body from her flat in a suitcase were dismissed as a “red herring” by a police source. But the force refused to confirm...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    Hi again otto. Problem is I dont see that as any more strange than someone killing her in her flat and then moving the body, but leaving bits and pieces of clothing in various places, including taking a pizza but not other items of shopping. But thats the core of the thing, isnt it tho? Im...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    All that's as may be, Nausicaa. I will still wait to see the reconstruction of her actually returning to the flat, putting the key in the door and going in, because if they are so convinced she returned to the flat and was then either abducted from it alive or killed and her body moved by her...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    Hi, otto ... and the victim who wasnt in the flat either. So it's the pizza and the victim (alive or dead) taken from the flat, not just the pizza. Everything else listed is no more than an armful. What casts doubt on her returning is the lack of evidence, apparently, of a struggle in the...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    This is interesting stuff now, deckard. But believing isnt quite enough. At no point have the police said as a matter of fact that she arrived back at the flat. Or that that's where she was killed. Or that she was abducted from there. If this is what they believe as a matter of fact, then...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    Im interested in the cider business also. Two bottles of cider doesnt mean there were two people, it could just as easily be two bottles for consumption over the weekend by the same person. Not excessive, Id say. But where were the bottles of cider in the flat? In the fridge? One in the...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    There is a lot of speculation about the pizza which, now we know for a fact she didnt eat it, has to be put aside. There is nothing to say the pizza made it back to the flat. There is nothing to say the girl cooked it, started cooking it or was interrupted cooking it. Or to assume someone else...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #7

    I find both the appeal and the looming Crimewatch recon bizarre. Why reconstruct images we have already seen 'for real' through CCTV? I dont understand the benefit of that, how 'made up' images and angles are meant to help recollection better than actual film footage which has already been...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #6

    It'll be very interesting to see what the police are prepared to imagine or describe on Crimewatch. For instance, will the recon have the victim returning to her flat, key in the door and all that? Will it follow her inside and give a narrative of the pizza and the cider? Or just show the...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #6

    You've been raising very good points, laserdisc, if I may say so and thanks to everyone again. There is a lot of control being exercised over this case in the public arena, after an initial burst of appeals and encouragement of press attention. Now, the consensus about the couple has...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #6

    This case has dropped out of the media spotlight now - you can practically date the slow down in news from the row between the Avon & Somerset constabulary and ITN. If it wasn;t so sad, it would be amusing how the usual allegations are being laid against the press and media -...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #5

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1346996/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Did-killer-stash-body-secret-cubbyhole.html This is a strange departure now. The police saying they are 'convinced' the murder took place in the flat is not quite the same thing as saying 'it took place in the flat', simply...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #5

    Hi Robin Hood, the clothes issue is interesting too. I wonder why the police would bother involving the public at all as they have done here, even with facebook, if they are putting out incorrect or 'devious' information. I'd have thought that had the victim not been found wearing the clothes...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #5

    I haven't been able to understand why any killer would remove Ms Yeates's body from the flat. Being kidnapped without shoes or her private belongings, bundled into a car or whatever, would place the murder scene elsewhere - the police have not suggested that they are dealing with three sites...
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    GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #4

    Hello everyone. I've spent some time reading this and previous threads and thanks to all for being so informative with photos and maps and timelines and so on. I'm one of those who thinks the current investigation needs to be revisited quickly root and branch by fresh thinking, reviewing the...

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