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I am still getting a file error message when I try to open the Freeh report, but I saw one article quote the Freeh report as putting one of the problems as "a culture of reverence for a football program". Of course, that article reminded me of another question. Why are we giving all of the...

I cannot open the freeh report right now. As soon as I can, I will. It is possible it was in press conference statement, and if so, I apologize for my mistake, I may have read it in the press conference statement and then remembered it as being in the report, but it was accompanied by the...

Okay, but you made all these points in response to my statements that there is no substantive evidence of the football first environment. The Freeh report did indicate it was a football problem. In the early pages, the pages that so many people read and accepted without reading it in its...

I was talking about there being a lack of evidence of a football first culture, pervasive throughout the school and community, and you said that the Clery Act violations were substantive evidence of that culture. I do not disagree with the cloistered environment. I think there is some...

I'm not saying they should be able to sue. But I have compassion for a lot of people, even when they are wrong, and it's possible to say they do not have standing, or discuss the fact that they do not have standing, without using intentionally critical language.

Thanks, I will check out the linked in site. If I can remember my password there. Wait, so you are saying the Penn State way is just to fail. It's not just putting football first, it includes caring about football, but also includes not caring about anything else? I'm not sure how you can tie...

It can't possibly be easy to lose your father, learn that he was not the man you thought he was, and then watch the community that you shared your husband/dad (and his money) with for so many decades lose respect for him. I completely cannot fathom how Sue and their children feel, and it's kind...

A full blog of what? Professors stating that academics took a backseat to athletics? Which site? I'm not sure I understand the connection between the Clery Act violations as evidence of the athletics first culture. It was a huge failure, one that I blame more than any other failure other than...

Just based on the number, and the use of the word indebtedness instead of just grouping it with loans, I'm guessing it was a pledge for a charitable contribution. When I was a student there, they had pledged or donated 250k for specific projects both my first year and my last year, and I had...

I really hope so. Admittedly, I have personal reasons for not being willing/able to lump all of Penn State as an evil culture. But one of the other reasons that I cannot let go of this point is that I think describing it as a football problem prevents us from actually getting to the root of the...

I completely agree that it is an administration problem. Perhaps if I could have found those words early on, there would have been less misunderstanding of my point. As for the Paterno was great, part of the problem for me is that there are some things that are part of the Penn State culture...

"it is clear to me, sir, that the divide in the psu camp is wide indeed at this point, and I expect it will get wider as time goes by. psu's best hope is that your pov prevails. I have been to your board; it does not prevail over there. And now the Lucarno staters appear here. flags awavin, guns...

"If everyone stood up and said, "Paterno was wrong. He made some mistakes. We need to fix this, and yes, there should be some punishment," we wouldn't have this PR problem." That's not true. I have seen it repeatedly. People admit that Paterno screwed up, and get blasted for not using harsher...

costalpilot, I would also like to point out that you bolded two points, leaving in between them the statement that any of those other motivations are still horrible.

Where did I say that if he covered up child sexual abuse to protect a friend that would make him a great guy? Covering it up speaks for itself, it's wrong for any motivation. When people become defensive at the statement "Paterno covered up child abuse for the sake of Penn State football" it...

Sorry I went off on a tangent and did not finish one of my thoughts in response to you. Regarding the more recent stuff: The halo was one artist, and it was my understanding that it was because he was dead, not an effort to make him out to be a saint. The unwillingness to accept, on the...

I think a week is perfectly reasonable, depending on the relationship you have with a person. If your initial impression was based on logic and information, and not personal interaction, then logic and information should do the trick within a few days. Others who have a more personal...

The actions of the lunkheads certainly justify the reactions to the lunkheads. But if people cannot comprehend that even a thousand lunkheads do not represent all of Penn State, and cannot comprehend that there is another view, in which we admit that Paterno, Curley, Schultz, and Spanier are...

I wonder if this has any relevance. http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=56 In January 2005, the Attorney General's office established a child predator unit (really bumped it up from a task force to a unit) using specially trained agents and prosecutors across PA to help ferret out...