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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    Regarding Lauren's partying habits, I read on the phish site from a guy that I believe to be JW's roommate that that particular night was NOT typical. Here's the link: http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/posts?page=15&topic_id=2744202
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #24

    I believe that I read on the phish forum that he does.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #23

    oops! forgot the post the link: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20102172-504083.html please see the first comment.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #23

    I am really worried that too much attention is being focused on the POI's and not enough on the fact that it could be a "random" abduction. Please check out the first comment under this news story! It details an attempted abduction if you believe the author. And also please remember that that...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    Some random thoughts - if LS was fairly coherent at 5 N at around 4 am and was running out of party options, why didn't she just ask someone to call JW for her? Or, if she was looking for additional party options, was there another party at 5N? Perhaps she left but then doubled back, which...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    BTW, when I say I'm having a hard time picturing how CR and LS exit I do realize someone described this scene but how did the larger group disperse? Did they live in smallwood? Was there much hassling as CR and LS left?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    Maybe what's on the video isn't our business but on the other hand sometimes a reconstruction of events can help shake something loose. Maybe the POI's wouldn't cooperate but the auxiliary people could. When I think of drunk people leaving the bar, I think of them as being pretty boisterous...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    I get what people are saying about how it's usually a boyfriend/family member (someone passionately involved with another) that usually did it. But I don't see JW as the bad guy. Usually there are tendencies all along for the person to be a possessive a-hole and these are hard to hide, because...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    Disclaimer and apology - sorry to keep going with the notion of stranger abduction - and - I've been wrong before. But, let's say that none of the college POI's are involved in Lauren's disappearance apart from their contributions of any drugs and alcohol. Let's assume that she was taken by...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    I'm not buying that JR disposed of LS's body. I read that JR didn't have immediate access to his car (not sure where it was) and that's why they tried to call DR (I may have read this on the phish forum). Also, JR has out of town visitor, and that visitor later tweets the next day that he's...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #22

    Hi - I know there are some who read ChickJustin's blog (theforceofreason) and take it with a grain of salt, but I'm curious about some of her claims - Is it true that the homeless man who heard the scream is dead and/or murdered? Crystal Grubb was found strangled I believe. How did Jill...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #16

    yeah... Let's say that the POI's that WE KNOW ABOUT are telling the truth and she did want to party more, and she did leave as stated. If LS bumped into some other friends/aquaintances on the way, she may have wanted to hang with them, and then something bad happened to her after leaving JR's...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #15

    I'm sorry for rehashing the 3:38 am witness issue, but actually I believe this to be a useful piece of information. I've had a hard time believing that from 2:55 am to 4:30 she was walking to and hanging out at the apartments where the POIs are. That is 90 minutes! She dropped Rossman off...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #15

    Where did we get that LS was on MAOI inhibitors? Thought she was taking beta-blockers, which I think are different. But yes, it seemed weird to me that HT wouldn't know about this, unless LS really didn't like to take her medicine, esp. if drinking. She may not have perceived it as too...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #15

    Just want to point out that although the focus has been on CR, JW and JR as POIs doesn't mean that there aren't more POI's that we don't know, such as AB, ZO, etc. I may have misremembered this, but I thought that CR said that he actually had his suspicions about who was involved. I did...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #15

    Also want to add - maybe one person making the (non imprudent) decision scared the other POIs/parents into doing the same - especially parents who want to do the best for their kids and who can afford it. I think if my friend was lawyering up and I was part of the group it would really freak me...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #15

    Much discussion made of the POI's hiring lawyers, and I see both sides. Another option is that the POI's didn't harm LS or hide her body, but they were using drugs. I imagine that confessing to such drug use could harm future college and employment opportunities? Wouldn't they be kicked out...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #14

    I choose number 4, too. I think it's plausible that there was someone out there looking for an "opportunity." People who want to take advantage of others have to choose their moment, and what better place and time than in a area trafficked by drunk coeds occasionally. It could have even been...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #14

    Some random musings: Anyone here find it odd that after the altercation, LS didn't want to call it a night? I would find a small fight like that a bit sobering. She does her good deed and helps CR home (did I read that they were supporting each other?) But apparently she musters the energy...

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