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So from what I gather there was a lot of blood, very messy. That would lead me to believe the perp had blood all over him and at least some cuts to his hands from the knife slipping. I do not see a lot of crime scene markers outside, so it is strange that there is not a blood trail. In...

Well that's for sure! However I believe it will turn out to be a targeted murder of someone or all in that group of four. Since they were killed while sleeping , what random killer would decide to kill everyone in a house with no motive. There is motive in this crime....IMO

Thanks , Blue Paintings

Yes . I did post that possibility.

OK --Mortal Blow to upper chest.

I find it hard to believe a killer could get into the house while all 4 were supposedly sleeping? After the first 2 were stabbed wouldn't someone have heard some kind of noise and woke up? What If....... the killer or killers were already in the house before E, X ,K and M got home (convenient...

Question : Where did the 1:45 arrival home of all four students come from? .....and If the young women left the food area at 1:45 Question : How were these times verified? E and X were home the same time (1:45) as K and M? It says K and M left the food truck at 1:40 and 5 minutes latter...

Question: Where did the 1:45 time , for all of them getting to the house, come from?? .......and how did the two young women leave the food area at 1:40 and get home at 1:45?

All cases should be treated as homicides until proven otherwise. This is so all evidence will be accounted for and able to be examined. If after all this is completed, there is no evidence of foul play then COD can be determined to be something else.

Duty Ron and Ed wallace are retired police detectives. Ed Wallace is 1st grade detective with the crime scene unit. Their knowledge of such things is imeasurable.

Hi Ranch, Respectfully disagree-The car was found in an hour 1/2 exactly where the last phone ping was and that was Prosser lake, in 14 ft of water , not far from shore. With 19,000 man hours used in this case WTH were they looking? Furthermore LE distinctly said Procsser was already...

Hi Steve - I can see you are frustrated with my musings and if you believe this was an accident, that is certainly your prerogative Talking to me, then, will only frustrate you. I find you rationale interesting "The facts, as investigated and determined by Trained law enforcement teams and...

I get it but with the way this case has been handled it seems inevitable to question ! Unfortunately the full report is on a You Tube channel

That would be hearsay. I do not think the report says how much THC or Alcohol and I believe samples were taken from the liver only.

I am sorry the "falling down drunk" was me exaggerating but in keeping with how the narrative has been alluded to from the beginning. Just how drunk or drugged was she. All that was said was alcohol in the system which could be from decomp. Just clarify what that finding means?? If impaired...

I think that "blaming a 16 year old child for her own death" IMO, is exactly what LE is saying. Keily was the only one responsible for driving into a lake and drowning. Although I am very uncomfortable with what happened , I am not trying to blame someone else. I just believe a distinction...

I can stand by the outcome here , but I believe LE should announce the findings at a press conference and answer questions backing up their findings.... unless a November 1 conference will do that. They may not owe the public any info but I believe it would be the prudent thing to do.

If "ethanol found could be from inebriation or could be from decomp" finding be equal to drunk driving into the lake. I mean by the way friends were saying they would not get into a car with her that drunk or she seemed "really" drunk I would think the tox screen would be much higher then to be...

Curiosa20......could you be talking about Arizona! I lived in Scottsdale for a while and we did not have hurricanes or tornados or earthquakes, but we sure had Monsoon rains that could sweep you off your tires. Can't tell you how many car owners had to be rescued by helicopter. Just a note...

I agree there is "nothing on that video that suggests there was any foul play", and if this case was handled properly I could agree with you. However it was never made that simple. Their mismanagement of this case opens it up for so many questions and loose ends to be tied up, makes it hard for...