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[/B] BBM. The fake ID has always bothered me. I would think that if she had been able to hold on to one card, it would have been her key card. Also, just speaking for myself, but if I go out without a purse and have several cards (ie ID, credit card or whatever) I tuck them somewhere...

Ok, all quotes here are from MB's lawyer, BBM "Further, Beth took Spierer to Rosenbaum's residence and left her with Rosenbaum. It was Rosenbaum who allowed Spierer to leave his residence unescorted." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/25/missing-ind-student-lawsuit/2587749/...

I'm not talking about alternative scenarios, I'm talking about what was stated as fact (MB did not walk Lauren to JR's, MB did walk her to JR's. MB was home when Lauren and CR arrived at the apartment, MB was out when Lauren and CR arrived at the apartment and returned because he believed his...

One quote in that post I referenced states that Lauren left the apartment alone, without MB and that he watched her leave. The quote that I posted says that MB brought Lauren over to JR's himself and then left. In the civil suit, there is yet another version. edited for clarity: The last two...

I can't believe its been three years. I hope they get some answers soon, I can't imagine the hell they've been in for so long.

I'm not at home and can't access the links I have saved, but Sammi has quotes higher up on this page (#303) from one of Abby's posts, one where the lawyer says that Lauren walked out on her own, but then that changed to " Further, Beth took Spierer to Rosenbaum's residence and left her with...

Obviously thats your opinion. As a law student, and someone who has worked in criminal defense firms, personally everything you've said on this topic seems completely incorrect to me. I don't understand what you think the attorney/client relationship is like. Do you think MB's lawyer was just...

RE: MB. Originally I believed his story, that he was at home writing a paper, got roped into dealing with Lauren, and brought her over to JR's, either because CR was unable or unwilling to deal with her. As time has gone on, MB has changed his story (through his lawyer) drastically. First he...

I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but from your pervious posts it seems like you have some sort of legal background, or are at least well versed in the legalities of a case like this. As I'm sure you know, lawyers don't just run to the press with their personal ideas or scenarios. A lawyer...

BBM, that would be my guess. And from what I know about frats, if JW and JR were freshman when it was shut down, they were probably the ones being hazed, a lot of frats go way over the top with hazing/initiations.... One thing I've thought about (that could be totally wrong) some frats have a...

Snipped by me. I've thought about this before. Its awful to consider, as heinous and unforgivable the idea of Lauren ODing and someone not calling 911 is, the idea of this happening (imo) is even more devastating. I still think its something to be considered, but I personally find it hard to...

Thank you for posting this. I'm sure I've mentioned this before but I went to a really small (mainly female) school, and there were still rapes that went unpunished (in every way. IE the victim having to leave the school and the perpetrators being totally let off, even if their excuse was "she...

This is a good point. IMO, it would make sense if LE/the Spierers think JR (and possibly MB/CR) were involved but not the main perpetrator, the 5N boys getting all the heat while LE doesn't mention that they think XYZ might have had a bigger role than the boys could lead at least one of the 5N...

I didn't say it was leased to a client. I don't have time to go back into all the past posts, but my impression was that the business you were referring to was a business JW's parent's company represented, it was never said (before doubtingthomas' post) that JW had owned/been directly involved...

Thank you for the specific information, I really appreciate it :o

I've been thinking about this for a bit, it might be absurd but I figured I'd share it anyway. I don't know much about long qt outside of this case, so I could be completely wrong. Lauren had medication that she had to take daily. Was it medication that she had to take around the same time...

People aren't apples and oranges, but the scenarios are. With 5N we have facts, we have conflicting statements and statements that are incredibly unlikely to be true, if not impossible. With JW we have suspicions, but nothing concrete. That gives us nothing to work with, instead of having a...

re:1, I'm almost positive it was just reported as "a white powder", which everyone (including myself) assumed that it was cocaine, but I could be wrong. Does anyone else remember this?

I've been following this case since Lauren disappeared, and I read all the articles when they come out. If there is evidence that extends beyond various parents being connected, you seem to be one of the very few who knows about it.

I can only speak for myself, but I come up with theories based off of the facts that we have. If we get information that JW was out and about after he said he was asleep, or something else in his story is false, then I'd be happy to focus on him and not 5N. I'm not certain that anyone at 5N is...