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<modsnip> The issue in this thread is supposed to be: what impact does THC in TM have on the case, certainly: - it proves he was OK with breaking Florida law - it proves he was using MJ - it helps build the case for the prosecution that he was a bad kid / gang wanna be / drug user /...

2goldfish, I've gotta agree with this.... T's father was surprised with the recording and asked by LE (law enforcement) for an opinion if it was his son... he responded right away that it wasn't.... Once the TM family got their heads on straight and knew the recording questions were...

you believe SYG is going to allow you to walk after you kill a guy with a key and the right to enter your premise, but your constructive notice wasn't properly received? "776.013&#8195;Home protection; use of deadly force; presumption of fear of death or great bodily harm.— (1)&#8195;A...

you wouldn't qualify for SYG as they own the property and are legally entering after notice... so you can't establish a home defense presumption of forcible felony... see you in 40 years.....

you are correct... I have now officially worked too long today.... :)

I don't have a background in this area, but I'll offer a couple of observations based on some subject research and case documents: - mammals have widely varying speech pitch based on stress, physical exertion, adrenalin release etc. to the point that I've seen audio 'experts' misidentify the...

the purpose of this was to eliminate prosecutions for a guy A slaps guy B, B starts beating A to death and A kills B, A is denied SYG. I believe it will still boil down to: did G start the altercation?.... If it's proved that G did initiate, then 776.041 puts him in the position of having to...

it really sucks that T is dead, but it's a valid SYG claim, unless some actual evidence (not assumption, innuendo, gut feeling or other) emerges that G started the ACTUAL altercation. Following someone is not assault and it's not illegal. that doesn't mean his SYG motion will be granted...

a bunch of sarcasm about the definition of 'trace' is unnecessary.... I thought I was clear... the case that Team G will attempt to pitch is one of a bad kid / gang emulator / drug user... and T having a positive THC test result helps them... and the test is significant because it helps complete...

wow... the thread is a little crazy - a broken nose does not always result in a large amount of swelling and a crooked nose like from a fight movie... frequently they can be closed fractures of the upper nasal bone with no deformity... I've had one - such a fracture can result in two black...

IMO.... the presence of THC in general is a very minor issue... but in the context of the case it will have significant import: the entire case is: who initiated the fight? team G will no doubt pile up a stack of evidence to portray T's character as: an adult sized football player...

I think you are right.... 90% plus chance of going to trial and it will 100% hinge on selection .. nobody wants to make that call... but if this was an every day case... 100% chance that there wouldn't have even been an arrest

bump added youtube to my post to illustrate recoil of the 9mm PF9

agreed... forgot about the waistband report.... I would disagree that simply because there was no DNA or prints on the gun that there wasn't a struggle for it.. it is small enough to be substantively covered by Gs hand... could have been significantly 'wiped' by subsequent handling by G and...

I'm a newb here, but am a 40 year Florida resident with knowledge of the issues at hand / political evolution and will attempt to add something to the original discussion re SYG and some items on the rest of this thread.... be gentle :) SYG in Florida is an usually an affirmative defense /...

to the original post and folllow ons re: GZ, gun, concealment, residue, recoil gun and carry : That model gun is very small, intended to be pocket-able... so he could have had it concealed in waistband, pocket, inside waistband holster, etc... but it is most likely it was in a pocket because...