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    The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16

    Or he had already decided that the solution was murder and he did not want to engage in something that was pointless because he knew there was no future with Alison in it, just going through the motions until the time was right.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I agree with this view as if we do not feel able to speculate and theorise what is the point of being here? The ideas and collective intelligence of the sleuthers allow us to discuss how the known facts could be connected and what credible theories may fill the gaps. Many of the ideas and...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    The Hot Zone so named by QPS was near where the screams were heard and the active search zone was from Allison's house radiating out as you say ie the Hot Zone was different to the house as displayed on a map in a CM article before Allison's body was found. I have seen many of your posts...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    If you go back to earlier posts you will see maps of the Hot Zone and reports of where the screams were heard. Sorry I am not good at linking prior posts. Maybe Marly can help?
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I think there is also a different sound with teenagers having fun or scaring one another for fun make, there are lots of teenage parties in this area and screams are not uncommon particularly when they are walking home after the Brookfield Show. The screams that the neighbors heard the night of...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    The white van was a large transit van and the 2 yellow vans were of the forensic type ie short covered station wagons
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I agree Pest Control now that the lease has expired and BC clan no longer have access to the property.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    No Allison's house on Brookfield Rd, sorry if I raised your hopes and expectations of a second arrest!!!
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    The bus stop outside the NAB is less visible and unable to be seen by the camera imo.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    The bus stop outside the NAB on Brookfield Rd outbound does have seats and a roofed shelter & it is less visible than the others, you could sit there and be hard to see unless someone looked closely as they drove past. I think the credible element of the poster theory is that if police...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    There is also a bus stop on the other side of the roundabout outside the NAB on Brookfield Road outbound that is not visible in the photos posted. An earlier poster proposed the theory that NBC was at the bus stop while NBC was allegedly taking Allison's body to Kholo Creek to observe the...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I agree, I think because Allison"s murder was premeditated that he must have thought about what explanations he would propose. This could only be suicide or abduction and being a local the abduction option would be far less believable IMO.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I am glad you are okay now. I have never thought Allison committed suicide. GBC murdered her and did so with premeditation IMO.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I challenge myself about this often because I have become obsessed with Allison's murder as she was a close neighbor and I follow this thread every day however while I am sad about the stories my OH tells I don't dwell on their loss??
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    Thanks Minni I don't know what is right or wrong but I do wonder why OW felt the need to talk about Allison having been depressed and given that this was a strong rumor among friends and locals were they trying to create the story of probable suicide? I spoke to my neighbors the day after...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    If you are familiar with the area it is the only isolated place that you could make a suicide plausible by someone jumping from a bridge with enough height to cause death. I was gobsmacked by the evidence at the bail hearing that indicated it was premeditated as I had always thought DV and...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I wonder how many people who have had loved ones who committed suicide anticipated this or thought that it was possible. I am a health professional who have experience with families of those who have committed suicide who could not believe that this was possible. IMO.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    My husband is a detective with QPS in an area where there are up to 7 murders a year and most of them are women in DV scenarios, some of whom have never been found. I find it sad that because these women come from a poor area where there is a lot of crime that the murder is reported but the next...
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    I don't think that she committed suicide but that GBC wanted to stage her murder as suicide. I don't think he would have been thinking rationally in terms of what others would believe but I agree with you about the logic of leaving a note if he intended this to look like suicide.
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    Allison Baden-Clay - GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD #33

    IMO GBC took Allison out to Kholo Creek Bridge in the Captiva and got bogged. GBC rang NBC to come and get him out of trouble. NBC went to the location and towed GBC out of trouble in the Prado. I think GBC planned to drive the cleaned Captiva back to Kholo Creek and leave it there with...

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