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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    IIRC, the LoHud storyline places the witness sighting to take place before LS and CR are spotted by the alley cameras. Since they knew CR was with her leaving Smallwood, and just minutes later in the alley, they probably concluded it to be CR even if the witness didn't think it was him. However...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    I'm confused as to why the recent attacks are not being mentioned much here. The way I see it we have: 1. A rapist in the immediate 2. A rapist who targeted a girl leaving a bar (Kilroys) 3. A rapist who targeted a college age student 4. A rapist who targeted a girl in leggings (same as LS...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    I think it was the PI's who stated they believe the manager did in fact see LS, but the time was off. IF it was incorrect, and at 4:38 or so then it's very likely the boys are telling the truth and BPD is looking in the wrong direction. That would be extremely frustrating if that's the case and...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cwy1trEtOY&feature=player_embedded Also, a video posted through the blog. It doesn't provide new information but perhaps worth watching. One thing I thought about during the video was that LS was only at Sport's for 41 minutes. Minutes after, we can account her...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    New post of the Lauren Spierer FB page about a ring she was wearing that night. Good to see them finally releasing information like this in case anyone has spotted it. https://www.facebook.com/Lauren.Spierer.Family.Updates
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    The witness in the LoHud case and the TG story could very well be separate witnesses. LoHud witness is reported to be leaving from visiting a boy, while the TG witness was getting off of work. The times are different too. The witness in the LoHud video saw LS before she was even walking in the...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    That picture is from when she left Smallwood for the night. She was with DR so in assuming they cropped him and she's smiling/talking with him.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    A concussion or a skull fracture can cause a black eye no matter which way you fall, if you fall hard enough. It's common if you hit your nose that both eyes will blacken but it can certainly only happen in one eye as well.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    Just making a guess based on some information I read about the condition, wouldn't she be able to still vocalize her needs? And she wasn't forced or carried out of Smallwood so if she felt she needed her medication, wouldn't she insist on stopping at Smallwood and not get so easily distracted...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    I've been thinking about this recently. Just a few weeks ago, a group of my friends went downtown. One of my guy friends got extremely drunk and when it was time to walk to the car he was being carried, dragged, thrown over people's shoulders. He fell in the bushes in the middle of downtown...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    If you're sourcing to LoHud for this, weren't the two calls/texts to LS? IIRC
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #28

    I definitely could find a possibility in her leaving. In good condition? No. But I wouldn't rule out she could ever have left on her own two feet. I've seen similar cases way too many times. (21/college student)
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    It seems that after the death was ruled an OD, the police would rule it as that... a college student who took it too far. Most likely, finding out who she got the drugs from would not lead to some big drug bust so why would BPD use all their resources? Now, if LS's parents wanted to press...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    I suppose but they could have just put her outside for her body to be found. If someone found her dead from an apparent OD, they would have no idea where the drugs were from and police most likely wouldnt investigate into where she got the drugs. Why go through disposing of a body?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    Yes they did. http://www.lohud.com/article/20120603/news02/306030045 "Drugs were so prevalent in that environment that Dietl, the private investigator, said he can’t believe their use alone would be reason enough for Spierer’s friends to possibly cover something up. “Every kid’s buying...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    I mean I agree that some people are incredibly stupid. Good news that she lived! Probably not friends with those kids anymore either.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    My issue with the theory that LS never makes it to 5N is the time frame. She is last spotted on camera leaving the alley between the 10th and College apartments walking towards the gravel lot. The lot is a few hundred feet, probably takes 30 seconds to cross, maybe longer if you're...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    I think it speaks volumes when the PI's say that kids are doing drugs left and right and that could not be the reason behind this. They were open about their use (most likely from the PI's interview with JR- the LoHud article says he's the one making the statements about the drugs and no other...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    I do not know a single one of my male friends who went to the hospital after a drunken fight that did not leave them with a broken bone/critical injury. Reasonable thing to do? yes. Likely? no.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

    Even if you want to look at this as CR remembers something, the "theory" is most likely supported from events earlier in the night. Salzmann stated CR does not remember anything from 15 minutes before the punch through the night. He most likely said something like "I don't even remember leaving...

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