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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    I have been thinking this too. I think it’s possible that he was intoxicated and angry when police were called and that is why they said the kids would be better to stay with his mother. This was likely meant in the context of that day/night and not meaning the children were better off with her...
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    I believe common law marriage exists in Oklahoma. My Mom and stepdad always referred to this when I was young. I do not know a lot about it and how it affects property and testifying but am curious. All IMO.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    In a link above, it was reported that the planning started February 13. What happened that day to set this all in motion? Do we have access to court records yet that may give some insight? https://www.newschannel10.com/2024/04/17/suspects-charged-murder-kansas-women-denied-bond/ ETA the link
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    I have odd thoughts as I try to fall asleep and was just thinking about the cost of a dp case for Texas County, OK (I believe that’s the correct county) and how that aligns with the current budget because this will be x4. That has to be very hard on this county. Not that this is what’s important...
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    I’m wondering if they had a similar plan that day as they did back in February. Were they trying to cause an “accident” but things went wrong?
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    Found Deceased FL - Katherine Altagracia Guerrero De Aguasvias, 31, missing, possible armed carjacking recorded by witness, Winter Springs, 11 Apr 2024 *Arrests*

    I did not see this coming. It sure takes me back to some movie plots involving running illegal things and organized crime. And I do not believe the guy tapping the window with his firearm in the middle of traffic was the leader here (if that is even what is going on). Not saying that is...
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    I can’t help but think about what WR is thinking right now. IF, he was unaware of what his mother had been planning, it has got to be nearly unbearable being forced to stay in rehab with no communication with the outside world as all of this unfolds. Not saying I’m necessarily sympathetic toward...
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    Found Deceased FL - Katherine Altagracia Guerrero De Aguasvias, 31, missing, possible armed carjacking recorded by witness, Winter Springs, 11 Apr 2024 *Arrests*

    I was also surprised by this time gap. I can’t think of any reason for this time gap. Well, a couple of reasons. Definitely significant IMO.
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #2 *Arrests*

    I did not realize the TA was wearing a shirt with the words. I thought it came from something someone posted and just added that. I am wondering if that was intentional?!
  10. Sincerely

    Found Deceased FL - Katherine Altagracia Guerrero De Aguasvias, 31, missing, possible armed carjacking recorded by witness, Winter Springs, 11 Apr 2024 *Arrests*

    Is the man getting out of the car behind her? If so, that video likely captured the license plate. Video here https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2024/04/12/woman-car-missing-after-possible-carjacking-at-winter-springs-intersection/
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    OK OK - Stephen “Steve” Lee Murphy, last seen in Claremore sometime in 1976, not reported missing until July 2022

    I haven’t seen this Will Rogers High Class of 1975 message board listed (but I could have missed it). https://classreport.org/usa/ok/tulsa/wrhs/1975/
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    OK OK - Stephen “Steve” Lee Murphy, last seen in Claremore sometime in 1976, not reported missing until July 2022

    Wow. I came back on here just to ask if @Snoangel26 knew where her parents might have met. Great question!
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    OK OK - Stephen “Steve” Lee Murphy, last seen in Claremore sometime in 1976, not reported missing until July 2022

    My bio family’s home was on Oklahoma Pl, which is 5 minutes from 7313 E Newton St Tulsa Oklahoma, where he lived. I have wanted to talk to my numerous aunts and uncle’s who lived there in the 70s and are near his age but we’ve had a lot of loss since I mentioned it. I will ask. I did find out...
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024

    I wonder if there’s any brake marks on the highway before the turn off onto the gravel road. I think we have enough footage to check. I haven’t yet. Not that there would need to be to prove but the thought came to mind. All IMO
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024

    What time was the car found? <modsnip> The missing persons poster states they went missing around 9:30am so I’m guessing this is when they left Hugoton. Hugoton to Eva is 46 minutes and they didn’t quite make it there. I’m just trying to see the amount of time someone had to make them disappear.

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