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I agree! It is a sad indictment of society if the most interesting thing we can say about a person is the manner of their death. It's life that matters - not death!

Thank you, Paul. Many of us were rocked by Anita's horrific death. There are indeed parallels as well as echoes of the Cobby case in the most recent tragedy. I personally still have nightmares about Anita without the embellishments. This naturally drew me to the current case. We can never find...

It is difficult to get one's head around how someone could act in such a depraved manner!

Thank you! That was enormously helpful!

Any Legal Eagles out there? The thing about the presumption of innocence. Is this absolute? Because it seems to me that it ought not be. Hypothetical for you. If someone walks into a police station and confesses to a murder. Surely innocence can't be presumed. The only issue could be stuff like...

Fruitingles, am devastated for you Sweety. Lost my Dad too! Thinking of you! Love LeoBear

I am old enough to remember the Anita Cobby murder and the community outcry - including bringing back the death penalty. I haven't read the book but I was going out with a journalist at the time. I won't go into details but the stuff he told me was horrific. I think all of Australia wanted those...

I agree with this assessment. The release of the CCTV material was already a risk. I suspect the police didn't want a media circus to follow.

Not really, Sweety. They were all horrific!

With respect, there is a significant difference between having an emotional investment in a case and "totally lacking in empathy". A number of professions require you to be at arms length. And in my opinion - with good reason.

A couple of things. People emotionally invested in the case should not be on the job. Period. It stops them from doing their job. Second, I doubt that what happened to Jill was worst than what happened in the.case of Anita Cobby, the bodies in the Barrel or Claremont. Assuming this us the case...

The reporter who was interviewed on Latelins about this said that the off the record briefing was to his knowledge unprecedented. Makes you wonder ...

I can only think that the alleged killer planned this very carefully. How did he know where to park his car? He had to have stalked this lady for some time. Known her route home. Otherwise how does he work out the logistics of getting her body to the car? There is always the possibility of a...

:please:The thing with the doves is intended to release her from wherever she is and to give her peace. I hope so. Unimaginable torment for Jill and her family. I hope that they are able to find some kind of peace. For themselves. And in each other. :please:

:what:Y I just don't know how we can find out what really went on in those final minutes without the details being made public. But I can imagine I might follow someone in this situation if I thought they were a cop ...

I agree with you. As do many posters. But something else is going on here. Something like catharsis. The thing about this case is its apparent randomness. It has left many of us thinking "there but for the Grace of God, go I". And I think many people are trying to work through in their own minds...

She does look back behind her in the last frame that I can see - so maybe she did buy the story that she was being followed & that he was protecting her. It's horrible I know but if he established some kind of trust with the victim then perhaps she followed him into Hope Street and he...

Exactly right. The police would not want to add to their trauma or the fear in the community. That does not mean he didn't have a weapon but I don't believe the police would have released a tape showing this (for the reasons you and I have outlined).

I agree. For what it's worth, it looks like a gun in his hand. And I know too little about the technical aspects of video tape to be convinced by arguments that it is some artifact of the tape. However, on reflection, I don't think it can be a gun. And here's why. The police would not have...

Thanks BearBear. It's mysterious. The police say Brunswick is the murder site - so presumably, all evidence relating to that crime is there or in the perp's car. So what are we looking for in the dump site? The only things I can think of are the missing ABC bag and more bodies.