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I can't speak to this setup, but way back when I was in camp, the older girls were in their own "zone", usually overlooking everyone else if the terrain was hilly. Kind of like you had reached a "higher level" for being older. We only had a lake, but the cabins were nowhere near it. Who needs a...

I don't know if there was ever posted here, but I thought it had some interesting information "This all adds to a reality where it’s nearly double the cost to house someone on death row than it is to house someone for a life sentence. A study from Torin McFarland at Susquehanna University...

It the speed that has me confounded. They said it rose to 26 feet in 45 minutes. In desert world, 45 minutes is all the time in the world, even in the middle of the night. I would think (though maybe I am just used to how it works in the desert) there would be some place for 750 kids to have...

The poor families. It's hard for me to understand how someone wasn't keeping a watch all night at the camp with even 6 inches maybe going to fall, but maybe they were and that is why only 20 are missing. 750 kids is a lot.

Random question: If any of the families wish to pursue a civil suit against BK, does anyone know if presenting (or not presenting) an impact statement in the sentencing hearing would mean anything in the civil suit? ETA: Remember, this is an IF. I am only wondering.

Ah, and it's limestone and granite. It's all making sense now. Thank you, sorry for the sidebar.

Thank you. I live in a goofy place where "Hill country" can mean "Land so flat you can see for 40 miles, but we have this one hill....."

Got it, so it can be a similar situation, it's raining upstream and the run off all the way down is pouring into the river.

Will someone help me understand? In the desert near me flash floods happen because the water comes down off the mountains and rolls off the flatlands then pours into the washes where the flash floods occur. These washes are normally dry, so when the water comes through it rises fast and furious...

Its true. The question was "What would be "true justice" for the slaughter of 4 young people?" and I was trying to explain what "true justice" is for some people. I was under some crazy idea that maybe it's just not understood what true justice would actually be for some people. The question...

As long as he doesn't escape, or no Habeas Corpus Petition is filed ( and I can't see how that could happen) we can hope.

Yes, they can reject a guilty plea

Let me try again. People keep saying this is justice. Not to some people it is not. It is not a death for a death. His pleading guilty does not change that this is not justice to them. Btw, did you read the link I posted upstream about the escapee who killed five people? Have you read about...

For reference https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-the-judge-reject-plea-deal.html

Except they haven't insured that. People die when inmates escape. (See my link above for just one case). The justice system in Idaho included the DP as a possibility. That would be a death for a death. But with the plea, that was taken off the table, so justice ("being what is merited") is now...

Eye for an eye. Death for a death. This is truly what some believe.

Oddly, people on true crime sites do that, and it's not even their daughter. I did listen to what he said. He said "Maybe they'll have a welcome package for him." That can mean anything. Maybe SG hopes that BKs life in prison will not end up a cake walk (I doubt it will). Maybe he hopes someone...

I suppose that is the "restitutiom" part of the deal.

Hmm. Is this something that CAN be included in sentencing? I would have thought it would be part of the plea deal if needed, but if it can be included with the sentencing that would be great. But a question. The law prevents him from profiting off his crimes. Wouldn't in prison interviews with...

Perhaps he knows he won't make a good impression with anything he wants to say. Or that he thinks what he wants to say will make no difference, because it actually won't, even if he said it well. At this point, this needs to be LWOP. The judge could make it less, but not more. Making it less...