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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Murders sometimes happen before a rape can take place. Sometimes the victim's fight results in death before the act of rape.
  2. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    I have to admit there were some outlandish theories being spread around over there. How about this for outlandish! A serial rapist Turkish police officer who attacks women while off-duty.
  3. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    A snippet from a discussion held on a Turkish based site from members living in Turkey. I never considered the police angle...interesting ".I wonder how she was dressed...as far as I know Istanbul is open minded in that case, but if a nyc girl, with her sexy party outfit would walk somewhere...
  4. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    I was actually speaking of stories I've read from women who actually live there. I bet for every women born and raised in Turkey who denies oppression, there will be another who agrees oppression exist. This debate can go on and on and on.. As an American female visitor, whether long term or...
  5. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    Depends on who you ask! So.... "Well I just have to say her friends quote about women in Istanbul is ON!" ************************************************* Not related but maybe... found this story interesting! Scary too warnings for women, Istanbul...
  6. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    No disrespect at all, but I have to snicker every time I read "Find herself" I just find this comment so ridiculous. I feel if there was not the 'man' element to this trip SS would not have gone to Istanbul to "find herself" sorry this is how I feel.
  7. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    Thank you for sharing your views and you have not offended anyone...believe me, there are a lot of members here who feel the same and agree with a lot of your points but have chosen to sit on their true thoughts. For me your comment holds a lot of weight because you are from the same culture...
  8. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    Not to mention the fear of getting caught...under those circumstances your adrenaline is flowing and you have superhuman endurance.
  9. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    I think SS relied on her Istanbul connection for travel advice and sightseeing but at some point maybe she felt her connect wasn't as helpful as she would have liked, leaving her to fend for herself most of her time there. I'm a guy and I'm the same way.
  10. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    My EXACT thoughts when I 1st looked at that video. Yes, it took some doing to get her in there.
  11. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    As a visitor to a foreign city you sometimes don't read the danger signs, they're different from what you may encounter in NYC..in fact they may appear much less dangerous than what you would consider threatening coming from a city like NYC. Even here in the states one can make this same...
  12. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    60/40 split between the two...either way sex was the driving force I feel. She was probably kicking the dude's *advertiser censored* before he found that rock.
  13. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    Yeah, I bet SS stuck out like a sore thumb out there, guys staring and cat calling or whatever it is Turks do out there. Poor girl...makes me angry! They better catch the *advertiser censored* soon.
  14. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    So the more I see these videos of her walking alone, she just looks so out of place to me (maybe because I know she's not a native). An attractive, very petite foreigner, walking alone and most likely looking like a foreigner to anyone who is not a foreigner. It just screams sex crime to me for...
  15. K

    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #4

    It wasn't supposed to be a lonely trip, I believe most of her time was supposed to be spent with someone, maybe Taylan? who knows but it seems it didn't turn out that way but then again, we have no idea how SS spent her evenings other that what some spying landlord says. How do we know she...

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