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yes it is a rite of passage, that's why age restrictions are placed on drinking. it's a BIG deal when you finally become of age, and one of the first things you celebrate, what, did you grow up amish? stats aren't necessary, but laws are.

well you're right, i don't have stats, but isn't it just a right of passage of young adulthood when one becomes of age and is on their own away from their parentage? does this even need stats?? i don't mean to be rude - i just don't know if dry statistics are needed here.

there really isn't anything in the video that couldn't be explained by a little intoxication. this would be TYPICAL of a young person out on the town in los angeles and coming back to the hotel late. the experts are brilliant in their field and have much experience, but sometimes i find that...

if you told me the video was taking place in a bank building full of professional office workers at noon on a weekday, then i would think twice. but it's not. i see calm, then scared, spooked, nervous, anxious, frustrated, upset, worried. you have no idea where she's just been or who she's...

true. they're looking for a safe and predictable victim. i don't believe she's suffering a psychotic break, btw. her actions are ordered and logical in my mind given the context. she may have had a little something to drink, but not drunk. i'm not familiar with drugs mentioned.

yes, context of the video is everything. if you want a crime of opportunity, you couldn't get any more ideal than this. a small young woman alone is a huge, almost empty building with an extremely scary history, probably in the wee hours of the morning in a stalled elevator, housing...

you're right.

you're right. perhaps her motions were simply for gaining attention to her predicament. it doesn't have to be logical.

yes, playful could be how she met her demise - she let her guard down. maybe even got into the tank as a dare. when the pedestrian crosswalk button doesn't seem to work when i'm out walking, i go back and angrily push it multiple times in frustration. this is what she seems to be doing. i...

those are good questions and i struggle with it. this is an evolving process with me and i'm more and more open to different theories as time goes by and i get smarter with a lot of people's help hahahahahah there may be two different things going on here. i believe she is being followed...

it makes perfect sense to me now, as someone else has explained, that the petting motions are actually her showing someone that the motion sensor is not working and the door is obviously stuck. i thought her actions were extremely bizarre until that was pointed out. you'll notice that before...

just because the fire door was alarmed doesn't mean somebody didn't go through it. they could have dropped the body somewhere up there hidden and left before security arrived, then gone back later to dispose of it.

could it be because the city could be found liable for forcing the hotel to keep the long term tenants, one or more of whom could have committed this crime, if one occurred?

i also feel she was trying to throw someone off with all the button pushing. what has many people perplexed, myself included, is why she kept pressing the door hold button. but as you can see from the picture of the button panel that turk february posted here...

this is so improbable i hesitate to post it, but since anything's possible... in the pictures of the rooftop attached, you can see the 15th floor windows. a body could have been placed in a large duffel bag with a rope attached, the window screen removed, then the rope tossed up to the...

i have a hard time believing it was planned suicide. if those were the clothes she was wearing when she disappeared, why would she put a sweater on if she was going to strip naked and jump into a tank of cold water?

controlled fear - that's exactly what i see. every step appears careful and calculated. i see no obvious signs of drugs or alcohol in her behavior. but she has to think quickly on her feet if she doesn't want to be a victim. the stepping around is her trying to find the safest place to stand. i...