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    SIDEBAR #15- Arias/Alexander forum

    I do not think Patti Womack could have added anything useful for mitigation. There had already been witnesses during the trial who were friends of Jodi. So the jurors knew she had friends, and she had some good times with them. She had good times with Travis, too. I believe it was an intentional...
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #4

    Please tell me if this is correct: The police have said that Elaina was injured but they have not described the injury or told us how they know about the injury. We know of the allegation because Angela is being held in jail on charges of child endangerment. Frank, who shot the "secret video"...
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    I'm not up to speed on the initials yet. Who are JK and TJ? Thanks!
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    From Dr. Drew's show: Stephen King is either ex-boyfriend or boyfriend. Mother was "staying" with him and "stayed" with him before. Does that mean she lived there or was just visiting? Is that her only place of residence? Where else did she live?
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    Is this certified K-9 handler slash psychic a member of law enforcement or somebody else?
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    When did the alleged injuries to the baby happen? I didn't see anything wrong on the video from Saturday. Was she injured after the video and before the disappearance? How many people reported the injuries? Is it confirmed now the baby not seen after 10pm Saturday except by mother and...
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    If I heard correctly, Nancy said we learned for the first time today that nobody saw the baby on the day of disappearance besides mommy and her boyfriend. Previous stories had indicated many people in the house on that day? But I thought the "secret video" was taken on the day of the...
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    GUILTY OH - Elaina Steinfurth, 17 months, Toledo, 2 Jun 2013 - #3

    The caption said "Father of missing tot mom." Does that mean a tot mom is missing? The loud beep noise and Nancy's yelling hurt my ears so I had to turn the sound down.
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    Jodi Arias Legal Question and Answer Thread *no discussion*

    It appears Willmott has 5 cases in August if you include the Arias retrial, plus a TBD. How are priorities determined when there is a scheduling conflict? I assume defendants demanding their right to a speedy trial have to get priority. And I assume cases that are relatively short and simple...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    But if the foreman was guilty of juror misconduct, then the remedy is a mistrial. That's what we got, a remedy for the alleged problem.
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    Personally, I think Jodi's reverse psychology worked. By showing the survivor t-shirt to the jurors she was essentially begging them to execute her. But someone who begs to be executed is completely incapable of rational thought. The murder, even though premeditated far in advance, was...
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    SIDEBAR #14- Arias/Alexander forum

    I consume various frozen treats that come with popsicle sticks. I am not prompt about disposing of the stcks. I don't care to say a total number, but I would have at least one available within a close distance at all times. It's not like I would have to get in the car and drive around in search...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    I don't know what they were thinking. Several said they were surprised to learn it was a mistrial. I'm speculating as to what might cause them to be surprised. In most trials you would not be the least bit surprised to learn it was a mistrial. What is different here? I'm guessing. Maybe only...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    Part 2 I disagree with anyone who asserts the foreman wrote a question on the verdict form. (And I'm not intentionally trying to put words in people's mouths, so if nobody said that then don't worry about it, it just means I erred. :) ) It is true the foreman had previously asked a...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    Trying to clarify my earlier comments: Part 1 We all know that in a criminal trial, if you have one or more jurors refusing to go along with the others then that is a mistrial. Either the case has to be tried again or there is a plea deal or the state drops the charges. This is the common...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    But that's exactly my point! It is common sense. It is trivial. And that's why its existence is confusing to the jurors, which is not a trivial problem. It's something logic dictates should not be there. So the jurors guess the reason. And they apparently guessed wrong.
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    It communicates to the jury that they are not required to reach a verdict. It's extra emphasis on top of the instructions they are given. It gets them to sign acknowledgment that they are aware. It's required to avoid this issue being raised on appeal.
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    There is a reason why the verdict form offers "No unanimous agreement" as an option. The jury doesn't know the reason. Most people don't know the reason. Why not let each juror chose "life" or "death" and turn in the forms that way? Why make them be unanimous in saying they are not unanimous...
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    SIDEBAR #14- Arias/Alexander forum

    When you listen to NG talk about former waitress Jodi Arias, keep in mind that any resemblance between what NG says and real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. She should be covering the Elaina Steinfurth disappearance or anything else of real importance. NG is disgrace. When...
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    The Jury Speaks Thread

    The verdict form has "No unanimous agreement" as an option. The jury was unanimous in that they all selected "No unanimous agreement." They were not given the wrong form. It was the verdict form. They were surprised when they heard the word "mistrial" but so what?

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