2008.07.16 Interrogation First recording

[janine]

I also noticed another pattern in that every person she referred to
1) Used to work at Universal
2) Changed their phone number
3) Moved North and then South
4) Wasn't programmed into the simcard (or was) but she had talked to on the other phone.

Further things stood out to me:
5) Jeffrey Hopkins and Juliette Lewis didn't even live in Orlando - but those were the 2 people she reached out to to tell that she had not seen her daughter and thought Zannie kidnapped her. (not any of the people that were in Orlando - could begin to look for Caylee right away)
6) She went to stores, bars, parks, and apartments looking for Zannie (where was Caylee while Z was at a bar?)
7) KC had a long silence when trying to remember when Zannie started watching Caylee because former babysitter was going to attend college. She is remembering when she got caught "not working" and a refusal to babysit anymore. (KC again was trying to hand Caylee off to anyone who would watch her).
8) Even in the videos - the cake/frosting incident when CA takes over washing the baby, CA hands the wash cloth to KC and KC washes herself (not Caylee). CA continues to wash Caylee while KC washes herself and then makes little faces (childlike?) - I just got the creepy feeling that KC was attempting to be the child to see if CA would wash her face instead of washing Caylee's. I think the "Jealousy" that KC was feeling towards Caylee was so evident throughout.

This was really good insight on all points....But BBM is what I've been noticing forever and wondered when someone would say it out loud. She washes her own face. That's been bugging me forever. Very jealous and very unconcerned about her child. CA tries to grab the rag but ICA pulls it back only to wash her own face. Unreal.

Thanks for putting a spotlight on that because it speaks volumes just how KC was with that child. ME ME ME. Oh- and then you...

The other thing I want to point out. I just got off the phone with Virgin. I bought a new phone and wanted to keep my old phone as a back up for emergency or just to leave in the car. I wanted to keep the same number but use both phones. NOT POSSIBLE the guy said. One phone number per phone. If you set up a new phone, it is assigned a new phone number. How could KC have two phones using the same number????? She told Det. Melich the nokia and the other phone were the same number. HUH??? His mind must have been spinning with the lies.

Do other services allow using the same number with two phones??? Anyone?

thanks.

 

[angeldust]

Well I know i can just switch my sim card to another phone from the same network and it works is this what u mean? i have a few phones from the same provider and can just switch the sim to each phone HTH

 

[mitzi]

Can you imagine the Jury listening to this tape where ICA shows no emotion what so ever and this is while her child is missing. It should be played early on during the trial. The Jury can then watch her pretend to cry and poke her eye. Along with 31 days and the club scenes. What a sick mind.:crazy:

ITA...along with the 1st call she made to the Anthony home, wanting Tony's phone number, cuz "he's my booooooooyfriend." Ugh. She. Makes. Me. Sick. uke:

 

[mitzi]

Judge Perry has this audio right? and will be listening to it?

Will this audio recording be submitted into evidence for trial...I would love a jury to hear an (IMO) NON distraught sounding mother retelling her Fictional life...

I have listened to a bit of it..will listen to the rest later while I wait for my flight..
Must remember to use Headphones...

Casey knew Sawgrass had a shed, speed bumps....she either remembered it from when Annie lived there OR she cased out the place to use in her story about what happened to Caylee..

I am really beginning to think that during those 31 days Casey was putting together "a story" about what happened to Caylee for when she got caught..


She is sooo calm, so un-nerved, she is not intimidated at all but exhibits a firmness in her voice that her story is the truth, the whole truth....

:twocents:

Bold mine.

I agree, except, I think the story KC came up with was just for CA and GA. She had to do some major improvising when it turned out that she needed a story for the cops. I don't think KC ever thought that the police would be brought in. I bet as Cindy made that first 911 call, KC figured Cindy would hang up just before someone answered...as Cindy probably threatened KC this way in the past and had always threatened and then hung up. Surprise, surprise...not this time, Princess.

 

[janine]

Well I know i can just switch my sim card to another phone from the same network and it works is this what u mean? i have a few phones from the same provider and can just switch the sim to each phone HTH

I'm not sure. I just bought a second phone and tried to ask the virgin guy if I could use both phones (old and new) with the same number and his response seemed almost like I was out of my mind. So I figured KC was making up a story cuz it wasn't possible. I don't really know what I mean...:crazy: I just know the guy said no.......bummed me cuz now I don't know what to do with new phone.

I get that there are sim cards you can switch with contact information but actually using the phone with the same number? What am I missing or better yet, what is the virgin guy missing?!

Anyway- I'm sure there's a lie in there somewhere. Phone situation isn't adding up.

 

[Oakley]

O/T and I apologize but any one remember this little gem?
Defense-team spokesman Todd Black gave few details on how Lee became involved, but did say the expert will be around for some time.

"It's not a one-shot deal. Dr. Lee is contracted for the life of the case," Black said. ( or until the money runs out) < BBM, My words. :crazy:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2008-11-15/news/casey15_1_casey-anthony-trunk-henry-lee

I think Black might have been referring to the case of oranges. :floorlaugh:

 

[angeldust]

Hi Janine

im from scotland so i dont know if network providers do things differently over here but i will try and explain a bit better .

My network provider is 3 over the years i have had numerous phones from them each time i renew a phone i just switch my sim card to the new phone. no number change or new sim card.

I sometimes have stored numbers to my phone memory instead of my sim memory so if i switch phones i can access all the numbers stored to my sim but not on the other phones memory. I would have to switch the sim card back to the other phone again to access the number stored to the other phones memory.

If for example my screen froze on one of my phones so i reverted to my old one until the new one was fixed it wouldnt cause me any problem, just switch my sim card to my old phone. sorry if this is OT. I hope this helps. Maybe virgin is different was with them years ago but changed network.

Because all of my phones are supplied by 3 i can also just buy another 3 sim card and use it in any of my old phones i did this to give my daughters my old phones

(I know i should never start a sentence with because lol sorry)

So although i understand what kc is saying i just dont believe a word about the "other phone".

Did you hear her in the recording when asked what zenaida s mom s name was and did she have her number in one breath she says gloria and i called her but she didnt get back to me and a few seconds later she said no i dont have her number eeek

 

[Bravo]

The lies are certainly beyond belief. I find it interesting that many of her fantasy friends seem to have a middle name she knows well :banghead: I guess in her mind the more info the more believable-not :floorlaugh:

 

[janine]

Hi Janine

im from scotland so i dont know if network providers do things differently over here but i will try and explain a bit better .

My network provider is 3 over the years i have had numerous phones from them each time i renew a phone i just switch my sim card to the new phone. no number change or new sim card.

I sometimes have stored numbers to my phone memory instead of my sim memory so if i switch phones i can access all the numbers stored to my sim but not on the other phones memory. I would have to switch the sim card back to the other phone again to access the number stored to the other phones memory.

If for example my screen froze on one of my phones so i reverted to my old one until the new one was fixed it wouldnt cause me any problem, just switch my sim card to my old phone. sorry if this is OT. I hope this helps. Maybe virgin is different was with them years ago but changed network.

Because all of my phones are supplied by 3 i can also just buy another 3 sim card and use it in any of my old phones i did this to give my daughters my old phones

(I know i should never start a sentence with because lol sorry)

So although i understand what kc is saying i just dont believe a word about the "other phone".

Did you hear her in the recording when asked what zenaida s mom s name was and did she have her number in one breath she says gloria and i called her but she didnt get back to me and a few seconds later she said no i dont have her number eeek

Hi-
Okay- that's making some sense to me. ugg.. Phones. I am one of those- push a button and talk gals......all the other stuff confuses me.

YES- Unreal about the mother of Zenaida. Gloria??? Off the cuff, that one was. She was tripping all over herself. I can only begin to imagine what Yuri was thinking.... No wonder the A's are trying to go after him with all they have. He witnessed KC, called her out, and knows her lies. So what else can they do but attack him. He must have been freaked watching this up close and personal. I know I would have been. There it was- in the flesh. A true sociopath. Pretty scary stuff.

 

[MissJames]

Hi-
Okay- that's making some sense to me. ugg.. Phones. I am one of those- push a button and talk gals......all the other stuff confuses me.

YES- Unreal about the mother of Zenaida. Gloria??? Off the cuff, that one was. She was tripping all over herself. I can only begin to imagine what Yuri was thinking.... No wonder the A's are trying to go after him with all they have. He witnessed KC, called her out, and knows her lies. So what else can they do but attack him. He must have been freaked watching this up close and personal. I know I would have been. There it was- in the flesh. A true sociopath. Pretty scary stuff.

BBM

and not directed at you,Janine ,but this is what ticks me off about the A's.
What they could do is stand up for Caylee.She's the victim,not Casey.
If they want to help Casey,fine.Mitigate ,but don.t cover up.
Can you imagine if someone else had been arrested for this,the family would happily go along,even knowing Casey did it.
Innocent people are being hurt by the A's lies.For what? To let their daughter get away with murdering their grandaughter? Yuri was trying to help them .Tim Miller was trying to help them.Mark NeJame was trying to help them.Jesse Grund was trying to help them.Amy H. was trying to help them.
Casey was trying to help Casey and these videos are he proof.

 

[Anais]

Absolutely chilling how calm, cool, collected and confident she is, especially given her age. Clearly not the demeanor of a mother with a missing child.

Chilling is right in my mind it is = to a psychopath................jmo

 

[karengo]

I had never heard the recording of just her voice. I am amazed at how calm she is.
If it had been me, facing a policeman I'd be wetting myself even if I had done nothing wrong. I would have confessed to anything and everything I have ever done wrong in my life including stealing my brothers crayons and the library book I might have forgotten to take back.

The calm, cool ,collected person on this tape is seriously broken. I think she has more isms than there are names for!

 

[Anais]

This interview - as well as the Universal interview - is why I think it is so ridiculous that the defense is trying to insinuate that ICA was intimidated by the "big, bad cops." Give me a break! I have been interested in criminal justice my whole life and have never, EVER heard anyone as calm and relaxed as ICA was in both of the interviews - especially given the fact that her daughter had supposedly been taken!! It's absolutely outrageous to even allude to her intimidation. She loved every second of the attention! JMO

That's just it, the stage belonged to ICA and she was and imo is still loving every second of it. But come time for trial LDB and JA will be certain that Caylee is center stage and it will no longer be the focus of ICA! ICA will finally be :silenced: and the smirk will be wiped off her face! These videos are just a reminder of just what a maniac they had on their hands. Poor Caylee never, ever really had a chnace. This is what makes me most sad. :tears:

 

[janine]

I had never heard the recording of just her voice. I am amazed at how calm she is.
If it had been me, facing a policeman I'd be wetting myself even if I had done nothing wrong. I would have confessed to anything and everything I have ever done wrong in my life including stealing my brothers crayons and the library book I might have forgotten to take back.

The calm, cool ,collected person on this tape is seriously broken. I think she has more isms than there are names for!

Yep- but besides the obvious lies- She gives herself away almost immediately. ABSOLUTELY, HONESTLY, POTENTIALLY.. How many times does she use these words. They are dead giveaways. LE is trained to listen for someone who is trying to convince them of a story. Her words, nevermind her demeanor-lack of emotion- lack of any true solid story- it's her words that give her away long before the story comes out. Absolutely, honestly, potentially, etc. Manipulative and it wasn't working so she hyped it up a bit as the interview goes on.

 

[janine]

BBM

and not directed at you,Janine ,but this is what ticks me off about the A's.
What they could do is stand up for Caylee.She's the victim,not Casey.
If they want to help Casey,fine.Mitigate ,but don.t cover up.
Can you imagine if someone else had been arrested for this,the family would happily go along,even knowing Casey did it.
Innocent people are being hurt by the A's lies.For what? To let their daughter get away with murdering their grandaughter? Yuri was trying to help them .Tim Miller was trying to help them.Mark NeJame was trying to help them.Jesse Grund was trying to help them.Amy H. was trying to help them.
Casey was trying to help Casey and these videos are he proof.

I know - and you're so right. He tried to help. When he and the other LE showed up, they thought they had was a missing child. They wanted to get as much info as possible to start a search, but each minute in, they were realizing how 31 days passed. I think they knew from the jump that the outcome was bad.... BUT- Yuri stuck by ICA giving her the benefit of the doubt every step of the way. He wanted nothing more than to find an ALIVE Caylee. That is very clear by the tone in his and all of their voices. They tried to play along hoping maybe ICA was just hiding her from her family. Maybe hoping that they could smooth the waters and the worst thing they'd have on their hands is a neglectful mom. Their hearts hurt as much as anyone's when Caylee was found in the swamp. But Instead of being welcomed for help by the family, LE was kicked in the teeth because the gear had changed. The A's knew Caylee was gone and now the very people they invited in, they wanted OUT. I truly believe by this time, the A's believed this was a family matter and to this day, I would bet my life that CA dreads having ever reported it. She would have hid this for as long as it would take to tighten up a good story for ICA. Maybe burn the car and dump any evidence. That's evident by the clean up job and all the cover up. Problem is that ICA was lying to them, too so they were never going to get all the pieces together to ever properly cover this crime. What kind of person does it take (no, person(s) LEE and GA) to cover for a cold murderer? Someone from the same cloth, that's who. How CA got them all on board is a mystery to me. I can't imagine covering for someone with this. I would support them through it as best I could, but lie and manipulate? Never. It takes a special kind of person to do that and I don't mean that in a good way. They will end up very lonely people when this is said and done. Forgiveness is earned and for all those hurt during this, the A's have a lot of work ahead of them if they want to clear their karma.

:banghead:

 

[krisskross]

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This was really good insight on all points....But BBM is what I've been noticing forever and wondered when someone would say it out loud. She washes her own face. That's been bugging me forever. Very jealous and very unconcerned about her child. CA tries to grab the rag but ICA pulls it back only to wash her own face. Unreal.

Thanks for putting a spotlight on that because it speaks volumes just how KC was with that child. ME ME ME. Oh- and then you...

The other thing I want to point out. I just got off the phone with Virgin. I bought a new phone and wanted to keep my old phone as a back up for emergency or just to leave in the car. I wanted to keep the same number but use both phones. NOT POSSIBLE the guy said. One phone number per phone. If you set up a new phone, it is assigned a new phone number. How could KC have two phones using the same number????? She told Det. Melich the nokia and the other phone were the same number. HUH??? His mind must have been spinning with the lies.

Do other services allow using the same number with two phones??? Anyone?

thanks.

I thought the number went with the SIM card. Or is that just for PAY AS YOU GO phones? :waitasec: I used to have a couple of personal phones I could swap the sim card back and forth.......one phone number. Granted they were purchased as PAYG phones.

Oh Right, little Miss no job/no money insisted on having a contract. :crazy:

But don't cell phone providers make use of handset ID's as well as SIM card ID's. The cops were pretty quick to charge her with lying to LE about the call she got from Caylee. They imo had proof positive by the afternoon of the 16th that ALL her phone stories :floorlaugh: were a bunch of BS.

 

[karengo]

I believe if ICA had told CA that Caylee was dead no one would have ever heard of this story and the "family" would have been told some bs story about what happened to her.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by Gnatcatcher
Snipped and BBM with respect - this was such a powerful thing you said here, Lola, that it actually made me gasp out loud.


I've posted this in another thread recently but thought I'd throw it in here as well, this is that same interview but with ONLY Casey's voice, Yuri is edited out. If you thought her manner of speech was horrifying before, listen to it this way. She might as well be telling somebody where she put a magazine down.

Once the jury gets to hear ICA's unemotional detachment for her allegedly missing child, the 31 days, the smell of death, the tatt, the partying...she is done, kaput, life over..:loser:

She has the unmitigated audacity to report her phone missing but not her own child. This is absurd....this jury will be made up of people who are parents, grandparents and they will not relate to ICA's calm demeanor. Those lies just steadily roll off her tongue, doesn't skip a beat but yet she contradicts herself all over the place. I work at Universal, I don't, I work with Juliette but she doesn't...:loser:

I await Justice for Caylee and without a doubt, Caylee will get justice.

I sit and see photos of this precious child and I just cannot relate to CA backing the one who took her sunshine away..I wonder when CA realized ICA was a pathological liar and a sociopath? When did she realize this and why didn't she try and get her only daughter help? She was clearly sending messages of a daughter in trouble and CA just let it go. She created this beast and now must live with the fact that ICA took Caylee from her out of spite, hatred and jealousy. Caylee could have loved them all, each love quite different but Caylee had plenty of love to spread to these incredibly selfish woman...I think of my three granddaughters and how many people are in their lives, how much love they give and receive and how I would act, God forbid in this situation. I do know one thing, I would not petpetuate their lies, I would expect them to tell the truth of what led to a child's demise and take the consequences that their actions brought upon themselves. I'd still love and support them but would never allow them to continue to lie...I would call them out on it, that's for sure!...JMHHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

LOL, continuing here cell phone saga...

Oh yes, her phones for work (at Universal :floorlaugh


Dang Universal for not paying her AT&T cell phone bills...ya know, the ones she had to steal money from family to pay the bills for!

:loser:

 

[Anais]

I had never heard the recording of just her voice. I am amazed at how calm she is.
If it had been me, facing a policeman I'd be wetting myself even if I had done nothing wrong. I would have confessed to anything and everything I have ever done wrong in my life including stealing my brothers crayons and the library book I might have forgotten to take back.

The calm, cool ,collected person on this tape is seriously broken. I think she has more isms than there are names for!

She is one very cool, calm, collected cucumber that's for sure! If I'd had a missing child I'd be hysterical and the police all over me I'd pee my pants with no reasonable explanation for 31 days...all lies. She has zero conscience and thinks only of herself. IMO it is way worse than broken or dysfunctional.

These recordings are hard to listen to without blowing a fuse! :banghead: