Thanks
Yes, I do believe Caylee was in that car no longer than 2.6 days. After a body fills up, then breaks down with gases isn't it sort of flat, for lack of a better word. Can a body, in intense heat, go through this whole process in a day or two? I should know the answer, but I can't remember. As far as the flies, you are correct that the car would be swarming with flies. I think I just need to go back and read the timeline better, as far as when the car was left at Amscott, etc. Thanks again.
The laundry bag is 17 inches across. A 3 year old's shoulders would have been about 12 to 15 inches. So with garbage bags, she was it there pretty tight. JMO
Do the images on pics 3 & 4 look like a precious Caylee foot to anyone else?
Long time lurker... I did not see this elsewhere, but does anyone else see part of a face in these pictures. To me it looks like the right hand dide of the forehead and bridge of nose pressed sideways. The indenture looks like the position of an eye and part of a cheek. Mybe I am reading to much into the picture, but its haunting to say the least.
I'm convinced Caylee was in the trunk of the Sunfire but I'm still unsure of her being in the spare tire space. Looking at this pic I wonder if the spare tire space was deep enough to hold her little body...she was almost 3 and that space holds a little doughnut tire...is the space big enough? Also, how would the fluid get on the underside of the spare tire covering if Caylee was beneath it? Seems to me that if she would have been in that space the fluid would have pooled in the bottom of the space in the trunk, maybe even drained out from under the car.
Also, I believe the white splotches and outlines are from bleach used to clean the trunk.
Caylee's car seat strap could have been pushed down in into the Sunfire's seat causing it to be in the trunk area where it might have been splashed with the cleaner.
Most concerning for me is Caylee's carseat...I've manipulated the images, adjusting saturation, tent, and contrast and it just looks like something happened while Caylee was in that carseat..did KC beat her or stab her...or both? Did she tape her up first to keep her quite while she was on her cell phone? Did she beat her with the phone? O so many questions and so few answers. I can't wait for the trial when the SA will put all the missing pieces together for us.
Thank you for clarifying... he asked for a wedge. Hmm...when she did finally open the trunk for him then...the question should immediately have been...."what is he77 is that smell?"
Am wondering if there is some truth in her "half-truths" and she may have had a flat tire along the way....and its possible that someone could have helped her change it? Is it possible that in the process of changing the flat, i.e. having to get to the spare tire, unscrew the spare tire holder and lift up the cover board - the bag with the body was moved..... fluids escaped staining both the carpet and underneath the coverboard? This would mean that someone possibly helped her change the flat....and knows about the body but is not saying anything. :furious: On the other hand.. the stains could be from the body being in the car for days and the fluids leaking out staining both the carpet and the coverboard which may be porous.
Caylee could have been placed in the spare wheel well prior to rigor mortis, her little body could have been manipulated any way in the confines of the bags. I also believe that the rust color on the ouutside of the bag is from rust on the inside of the spare tire well. JMO.
.....As far as the carseat goes, does anyone remember the deposition from CA. When the SA was asking her about the carseat and Caylee's teeth. Did anyone see if CSI found one of Caylee's teeth in the car seat or the rear seat where Caylee's carseat sits?? I don't remember seeing any results from that or on that.
JMHO
Justice for Caylee
I want to say that in CA's deposition for the State that there was a photo of two lists that were turned over to JB. One of the lists which would have DNA items from both KC and Caylee (mostly Caylee), I believe, had a tooth listed. Now KC is alive. All they needed to do was swab KC's cheek as she was out on bond, sooooooo....did the tooth belong to Caylee. Caylee is way too little to have lost a tooth this early unless a dentist removed it for some reason.
Have to see if I can find it.
Edit to add CA depo part II:
At the back of the depo is Exhibit 22, second page: CA in her depo identifies it as CA's writing and JB tells CA to "zip it". I blew the page up to 400% and a tooth is listed under bib. Other things on the list are pacifier and straw. This looks like a list for Caylee to identify DNA for defense. Why would KC have a tooth?????
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html
I know I am a little sloppy, but here it goes:
Things I have spilled in my trunk over the years:
Antifreeze
Oil
Gasoline
Power steering fluid
Automatic transmission fluid
Windshield wiper fluid
Beer (lots)
Bondo
Fiberglass resin
GoJo
Water
Cleaning fluids like Windex and Armoral
Up north here, when you open your trunk, snow will fall off the rear window and into the trunk with plenty of road salt.
Kc wasn't the only one who owned that car over the years. Ga owned it and so did LA. It is possible there were lawn chemicals, pool chemicals, fertilizers, house hold cleaning chemicals like drano and toilet cleaners, diapers, messy wipes, insecticides.
My point is that over a 10 year period, many many things could have caused these stains. It is true, I have spilled many many things over the years. Not on purpose, but when I take off the stuff tips over. The fertilizer bags give out a big puff of dust when I throw them in the trunk. It just happens.
I know I am a little sloppy, but here it goes:
Things I have spilled in my trunk over the years:
Antifreeze
Oil
Gasoline
Power steering fluid
Automatic transmission fluid
Windshield wiper fluid
Beer (lots)
Bondo
Fiberglass resin
GoJo
Water
Cleaning fluids like Windex and Armoral
Up north here, when you open your trunk, snow will fall off the rear window and into the trunk with plenty of road salt.
Kc wasn't the only one who owned that car over the years. Ga owned it and so did LA. It is possible there were lawn chemicals, pool chemicals, fertilizers, house hold cleaning chemicals like drano and toilet cleaners, diapers, messy wipes, insecticides.
My point is that over a 10 year period, many many things could have caused these stains. It is true, I have spilled many many things over the years. Not on purpose, but when I take off the stuff tips over. The fertilizer bags give out a big puff of dust when I throw them in the trunk. It just happens.
I had to laugh at your post, my cars and trunks in the past have been a catastrophe-I used to sell commercial cleaning chemicals, so my trunk has probably been nearly explosive at some point with all the crap that splattered and spilled-
BUT! GA, who maintained that car religiously, said that stain was not there in the past. So, KC either had to spill something in that trunk within the time that she was gone in June & July, or GA was not being truthful about his maintenance and cleaning regimen.
GA also mentioned that he got close to the stain and it was bad, he implied that the smell he was smelling outside of the trunk was concentrated in that stain. He also implied he knew that was the smell of death.
I have never spilled anything in my trunk that smelled like decomposition. Trash, maybe, but not decomp.
I respectfully disagree. Having read up on this on the decomp. thread and the Body Farm, the trunk could have been up to 120 degrees and the body in black bags.....black absorbs heat....would increase the decomposition process that much faster. A slow cooker. Garbage bags do not stop leakage. I could go further but a trip to the thread with the decomposition information can explain it better than I can, plus the pictures are quite graphic leaving no doubt in your mind what happens to a body. I'll see if I can find it. JMO
It is located on this thread: Dead Folks and Decomp *WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTOS*#2
I have never tried a link, but I am trying to show what I see and have the wonderful minds of WS tell me that this is not what I see (I really do not want to believe it)
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