2010.4.16 Pat Brown: The Daily Profiler-Topic of the Day: Ron the Mastermind

[Levi]

While Ron Cummings would never be awarded any Father of Year awards, I believe in the end, when and if this finally comes to a final resolution, it will become known, that Ron had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

IMO

There is a possibility this case is not going to come to and end, because of Misty/Ron.

Couples are very good at escaping justice. Look at John and Patsy Ramsey, JBR's murder has yet to be solved, because both of them refused to be upfront and aid the police in the investigation, just like Ron/Misty.

And if Ron isn't involved, how do you explain why he put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox? That could only mean he wanted Tommy to keep quiet. And if this is a man who wanted the case solved, why would he want Tommy to be quiet?

 

[Levi]

I wonder how the locals of Putnam Co will feel if Ron gets off easy, on these charges ? I am not from there, so I have no idea how the locals feel about his many free passes. Any locals willing to provide some input ? TIA.

Many of the locals cannot stand RC. My sources tell me that LE, cannot stand Ron or his family.

And I doubt Ron will get off. The min man is 15. That is hardly getting off and when he is sentenced and gets 15 yrs, that completely blows the idiotic theory he was dealing drugs with the individual withholding info in his daughters case, just to simply get her in jail...

 

[Beatrice]

If Ron loved Haleigh, he wouldn't have been going around town acting like a jerk, asking for free meals, getting tattoos with money donated to him, he wouldn't have engaged in stalking Amber Brooks, he wouldn't get involved in fights with the likes of Charles Jones, etc etc etc.

Additonally, he wouldn't be bragging about all the sexual positions that he and Misty engaged in AFTER Haleigh vanished. He also wouldn't ask individuals to have group sex with himself and Misty.

Ronald is a terrible parent, a dead beat dad (who abandoned a mentally challenged son), and given the sort of person he is, we cannot rule him out as playing a part in whatever happened.

Let's also not forget that he has been investigated many times by child services.

Ron absolutely fits the profile of someone who may be involved.

Bolded: Dare I ask you to elaborate?

 

[Beatrice]

re the tattoo: It was only 3 weeks after Haleigh's disappearance that Ron & Misty drove 3 1/2 hours to Pinellas Park. Stopped to get a "Memorial" tattoo of Haleigh...Hinting to the owners that people paid his expenses...They didn't bite.

Could this road trip been to dispose of Haleigh elsewhere?

 

[Levi]

Ron is a sexual deviant according to people close to the case. I've heard he would loudly boast about his sex with Misty in public.

Which doesn't shock me, we've seen him and Misty basically make out in front of the cameras after Haleigh vanished.

He got Misty, he was controlling her and he was proud of it.

 

[Beatrice]

Could Ron have had deviant activities with Haleigh?

Knowing the power of drugs...Could he have sold her?

Why was he surprised the person did not take Butterbean instead?

 

[dodie20]

Many of the locals cannot stand RC. My sources tell me that LE, cannot stand Ron or his family.

And I doubt Ron will get off. The min man is 15. That is hardly getting off and when he is sentenced and gets 15 yrs, that completely blows the idiotic theory he was dealing drugs with the individual withholding info in his daughters case, just to simply get her in jail...

Thanks, you just answered 2 questions that I've wondered about the locals & LE.

 

[SubtleGrace]

My opinion:

TN did not want to watch the kids. She called Misty. JR being younger fell asleep early but Haleigh did not. Misty was tired and wanted to sleep. She called Ron to whine. She may have threatened Ron with leaving or worse. Ron told Misty to give Haleigh some oxycontin to put her to sleep. Misty gave Haleigh too much. Ron called Tommy to go over and help dispose of the body. Ron staged the kidnapping.

They are all equally involved. Ron thinks he is outwitting law enforcement by agreeing to testify against Misty in exchange for a plea deal. He knows by now they don't have enough against her to press charges or they would have.

If they do press charges, I believe that Ron thinks he can throw Misty under the bus and that Tommy will jump on the bandwagon to minimize his own involvement, perhaps he even feels he can bargain for immunity? Ron worked awfully hard at trying to intimidate Tommy into keeping his mouth shut....

IMO, Ron can't point the finger at Misty without implicating himself. Misty can't point the finger at Ron without implicating herself. Ron can't point the finger at Tommy without Misty pointing the finger at him to protect/retaliate for Tommy.

Tommy is in the best position of them all, and his lawyers are really working for him, they know he helped dispose of the body and they are trying to minimize his involvment by making it coerced. They probably suspect that Misty and/or Ron had something to do with it, but Tommy is not talking. He is that scared of Ron. And even tho Ron more than likely was instrumental in Haleighs death (if perhaps it wasn't the drug scenario), he has the attitude that he is not going down for something that the "*****" did. (His words about Misty in the 911 call.)

Again, the above is my own personal opinion. Feel free to blow holes in it. I love it when I'm wrong. I get to learn something!

 

[newstome]

Actually, the title of Pat Brown's article, "Ron the Mastermind" started me giggling!

 

[bessie]

IMO, most people believe Ron when he says he passed with flying colors because he has not taken another LDT. If you pass, LE does not usually ask you to take another one. So I think people jumped to the conclusion that LE has not asked Ron to take one because he passed.

IMO, I just realized why Ron hired his criminal attorney in early/mid March 2009 and stopped "cooperating" on advice of his attorney. I bet LET wanted Ron to take another LDT. If it had got out that LE wanted Ron to take another LDT, no one would believe Ron passed with lying colors His attorney not only protected Ron from LE but also helped him to maintain his innocent grieving father act.

IMO, I don't have time right now to search but does anyone know if LE asked Misty to take a 2nd LDT? I'm pretty sure they did. If so, was it around the time that Ron hired his attorney?

IMO, if I'm right that Misty's 2nd LDT and Ron hiring his attorney occurred at the same time, that would make me believe that Ron did not pass his LDT with flying colors and was afraid of what LDT might find out about him.

Freudian slip?

I believe you could be right, btw.

 

[lil momma]

Many of the locals cannot stand RC. My sources tell me that LE, cannot stand Ron or his family.
And I doubt Ron will get off. The min man is 15. That is hardly getting off and when he is sentenced and gets 15 yrs, that completely blows the idiotic theory he was dealing drugs with the individual withholding info in his daughters case, just to simply get her in jail...

BBM


I am being very honest when i tell you, that your post just gave me hope! I just hope that the judges feel the same

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

My opinion:

TN did not want to watch the kids. She called Misty. JR being younger fell asleep early but Haleigh did not. Misty was tired and wanted to sleep. She called Ron to whine. She may have threatened Ron with leaving or worse. Ron told Misty to give Haleigh some oxycontin to put her to sleep. Misty gave Haleigh too much. Ron called Tommy to go over and help dispose of the body. Ron staged the kidnapping.

They are all equally involved. Ron thinks he is outwitting law enforcement by agreeing to testify against Misty in exchange for a plea deal. He knows by now they don't have enough against her to press charges or they would have.

If they do press charges, I believe that Ron thinks he can throw Misty under the bus and that Tommy will jump on the bandwagon to minimize his own involvement, perhaps he even feels he can bargain for immunity? Ron worked awfully hard at trying to intimidate Tommy into keeping his mouth shut....

IMO, Ron can't point the finger at Misty without implicating himself. Misty can't point the finger at Ron without implicating herself. Ron can't point the finger at Tommy without Misty pointing the finger at him to protect/retaliate for Tommy.

Tommy is in the best position of them all, and his lawyers are really working for him, they know he helped dispose of the body and they are trying to minimize his involvment by making it coerced. They probably suspect that Misty and/or Ron had something to do with it, but Tommy is not talking. He is that scared of Ron. And even tho Ron more than likely was instrumental in Haleighs death (if perhaps it wasn't the drug scenario), he has the attitude that he is not going down for something that the "*****" did. (His words about Misty in the 911 call.)

Again, the above is my own personal opinion. Feel free to blow holes in it. I love it when I'm wrong. I get to learn something!

Hi SubtleGrace!
I think this makes alot of sense - whether it was oxycontin, zanax, or something else that may have been given to HaLeigh and caused her death, both Ronald and Misty would have been participants and therefore responsible for her death. This theory would also help make sense out of Ronald's overly repetitious "I was at work" statements as it would have served as a "veiled" reminder to Misty that, although he (RC) told her to give the drug(s) to HaLeigh, she (Misty) can't prove it because, conveniently, he was at work. I believe HaLeigh's body was hidden/disposed of extremely well because they knew, through toxicology tests, the cause of death could/would be discovered.

~ AMOO ~

 

[Maia]

My opinion:

TN did not want to watch the kids. She called Misty. JR being younger fell asleep early but Haleigh did not. Misty was tired and wanted to sleep. She called Ron to whine. She may have threatened Ron with leaving or worse. Ron told Misty to give Haleigh some oxycontin to put her to sleep. Misty gave Haleigh too much. Ron called Tommy to go over and help dispose of the body. Ron staged the kidnapping.

They are all equally involved. Ron thinks he is outwitting law enforcement by agreeing to testify against Misty in exchange for a plea deal. He knows by now they don't have enough against her to press charges or they would have.

If they do press charges, I believe that Ron thinks he can throw Misty under the bus and that Tommy will jump on the bandwagon to minimize his own involvement, perhaps he even feels he can bargain for immunity? Ron worked awfully hard at trying to intimidate Tommy into keeping his mouth shut....

IMO, Ron can't point the finger at Misty without implicating himself. Misty can't point the finger at Ron without implicating herself. Ron can't point the finger at Tommy without Misty pointing the finger at him to protect/retaliate for Tommy.

Tommy is in the best position of them all, and his lawyers are really working for him, they know he helped dispose of the body and they are trying to minimize his involvment by making it coerced. They probably suspect that Misty and/or Ron had something to do with it, but Tommy is not talking. He is that scared of Ron. And even tho Ron more than likely was instrumental in Haleighs death (if perhaps it wasn't the drug scenario), he has the attitude that he is not going down for something that the "*****" did. (His words about Misty in the 911 call.)

Again, the above is my own personal opinion. Feel free to blow holes in it. I love it when I'm wrong. I get to learn something!

This is an excellent theory, SubtleGrace. You have obviously put a lot of thought into this case and it shows.

:Welcome-12-june:​

 

[Violet]

SubtleGrace, I agree with your theory. Except for one think. I think Misty would hog tie Tommy, drag him into the road, drive the bus over him, herself. Even go as far as buy the gas for it. I don't think she would chose him over Ron. I just do not know why.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

And IF and WHEN that happens we will know something stinks to high heaven in Putnam County..IMHO Ronald Cummings has everything to do with the fact Haleigh has not been seen or heard from since February 9, 2009...JMHO

How do we know that?:waitasec:

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Many of the locals cannot stand RC. My sources tell me that LE, cannot stand Ron or his family.

And I doubt Ron will get off. The min man is 15. That is hardly getting off and when he is sentenced and gets 15 yrs, that completely blows the idiotic theory he was dealing drugs with the individual withholding info in his daughters case, just to simply get her in jail...

Whoa! Are you saying that LE has a bias against the Cummings family which Haleigh is a part of?:waitasec:

Surely they will not let their own personal biases cloud their judgment on the actual perpetrator who killed Haleigh.

LOL! I find that funny Levi. You say they cant stand Ron Cummings while quite a few think LE is giving Ron a pass.

The prison system is overcrowded. IMO he will not have to serve his full 15 years. Maybe 85% of it or less.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There is a possibility this case is not going to come to and end, because of Misty/Ron.

Couples are very good at escaping justice. Look at John and Patsy Ramsey, JBR's murder has yet to be solved, because both of them refused to be upfront and aid the police in the investigation, just like Ron/Misty.

And if Ron isn't involved, how do you explain why he put a headless rat in Tommy's mailbox? That could only mean he wanted Tommy to keep quiet. And if this is a man who wanted the case solved, why would he want Tommy to be quiet?

Has the headless rat story ever been confirmed by LE publicly in the media? Why weren't charges brought? People cant put dead rats in mailboxes and not get in trouble for it. I don't think that is all it could mean Levi. It could be a message that Ron would like to rip Tommy's head off. Maybe he suspected Tommy from the get go. Maybe he thought Tommy was the one who put the idea in Joe's head to steal the gun. Who knows. It is like trying to read tealeaves.

We really don't have any idea what all any of them have said to LE. We may know snippets but we sure don't know it all. But imo Ron has told them enough that the DA was willing to make a plea deal with him and didn't do it for the others.

IMO

 

[Chablis]

Has the headless rat story ever been confirmed by LE publicly in the media? Why weren't charges brought? People cant put dead rats in mailboxes and not get in trouble for it. I don't think that is all it could mean Levi. It could be a message that Ron would like to rip Tommy's head off. Maybe he suspected Tommy from the get go. Maybe he thought Tommy was the one who put the idea in Joe's head to steal the gun. Who knows. It is like trying to read tealeaves.

We really don't have any idea what all any of them have said to LE. We may know snippets but we sure don't know it all. But imo Ron has told them enough that the DA was willing to make a plea deal with him and didn't do it for the others.

IMO

I think the better question is did Ron deny the rat story to the press? He told Tim Miller and Mark Nejame that he did put the rat in the mailbox.

 

[bessie]

Has the headless rat story ever been confirmed by LE publicly in the media? Why weren't charges brought? People cant put dead rats in mailboxes and not get in trouble for it. I don't think that is all it could mean Levi. It could be a message that Ron would like to rip Tommy's head off. Maybe he suspected Tommy from the get go. Maybe he thought Tommy was the one who put the idea in Joe's head to steal the gun. Who knows. It is like trying to read tealeaves.

We really don't have any idea what all any of them have said to LE. We may know snippets but we sure don't know it all. But imo Ron has told them enough that the DA was willing to make a plea deal with him and didn't do it for the others.

IMO

PCSO Media Release re the rat incident (Ratgate)
snipped from AH's site.

Case Number: 2009-6939
On August 8, 2009, Hank Croslin Jr. filed a report with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office that a dead rat had been placed in his mailbox. He reported that a neighbor witnessed Ronald Cummings place something in the mail box at approximately 12:00 am – 12:30 am on that date.
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has received media requests regarding the incident. This incident is currently under investigation, and many of the documents requested cannot be released at this time. I have attached a copy of the initial Offense Incident Report for your review.
This incident is not related to the investigation of missing five year-old Haleigh Cummings; therefore, we will not be participating in interviews or providing statements regarding this incident. Our only objective is, and always has been, finding Haleigh Cummings and returning her home to her family.
Putnam County
Sheriff’s Office
Jeff Hardy, Sheriff
MEDIA RELEASE
Lieutenant Johnny Greenwood
Putnam County Sheriff’s Office
Putnam County
Sheriff’s Office
Jeff Hardy, Sheriff
http://www.artharris.com/2009/08/12/haleigh-cummings-cops-ratgate-strategy/

The incident report is there, too. The neighbor told the officer she saw Ron pull up in his truck and put something in the mailbox. The rat was still there when the officer responded. He took photographs and then disposed of it.

 

[kant]

Freudian slip?

I believe you could be right, btw.

heh, I missed that on the first read.

"...passed with lying colors" -- an apt, fit Freudian slip indeed.

Freudian slip: When you say one thing, but you mean...

....your mother.