JB: Sir how far did you go into the woods?
DT: Ballpark 20 feet or so.
JB: And that's where you passed where the skull was, correct?
DT: No, I'd say 20 feet, I mean, I'm just going off the top of my head. I didn't measure it out or anything like that.
JB: Okay 20 feet from that street?
DT: More or less...
JB: There is also a weed line, is there not?
DT: What do you mean, "a weed line"?
JB: *grin* I knew that would be a tough question to answer!
JB: What I mean is, there is grass that is mowed before you get into the area that's wooded, correct?
DT: I don't think there was... all I remember is a wooded area. I don't remember seeing a mowed section previously.
JB: You just don't recall, or your certain?
DT: I don't remember if there was a cleared path prior to the woods.
JB: Okay, and when you came back how far did you pass into the woods when you came back?
DT: When we passed the site?
JB: Yes.
DT: I'd say we passed it probably by about 5 feet or so. When he turned around, he was looking a little bit confused like where did it go and then he turned and looked at me and pretty much over my shoulder he said; "There it is.".
JB: Next to the skull there was a fallen tree, correct?
DT: There was a lot of vegetation. I can't tell you exactly if there was a fallen tree right next to the skull.
JB: Any there was also a white bag?
DT: A white bag?
JB: Do you recall seeing a white canvas bag?
DT: No.
JB: Do you recall seeing a bright red bag?
DT: I focused on the skull and the garbage bag that was next to it.
JB: Okay, if I could just have one moment Judge.
HJBP: You may.
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