2011.07.06 Sidebar Thread (Post-Verdict)

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Please someone tell me how it is ok to dump your sweet baby in the woods after she drowns..... since the Jury feels that is what happened?????

I am so confused and disappointed....oh and angry.

Not ok. Makes no sense. They charged her for lying to the cops. What the heck did they think she was lying to them about? She kept telling them her baby was alive. HELLLLLOOOOO? Are you frickin kidding me? They don't think she's guilty of murdering her baby?

Still shaking my head.
 
We should start a poll asking 'how long do you think it will take for ICA to start acting like her oldself and lying about everything'. CM and JB indicated they would help her once she is released. So, I say good. They deserve their lying cheating, client. I can't wait for this to happen. jmo
 
Please someone tell me how it is ok to dump your sweet baby in the woods after she drowns..... since the Jury feels that is what happened?????

I am so confused and disappointed....oh and angry.

It is not okay, but the state failed to charge Casey with anything that this act would cover. They could have done so, but they were going for the top charges only and it backfired, IMO.
 
We should start a poll asking 'how long do you think it will take for ICA to start acting like her oldself and lying about everything'. CM and JB indicated they would help her once she is released. So, I say good. They deserve their lying cheating, client. I can't wait for this to happen. jmo

BBM
I heard somewhere yesterday that Mason said Casey will NOT be returning to the Anthony home, maybe just maybe she can become Jose's "Nanny". She was after all a wonderful mommy.
 
ARE YOU FEELING A LITTLE LOST TODAY? DISPLACED? this sidebar has been a link to feeling we can share our thoughts in a casual way. most times it was a wake up with friends like a donut and tea to start the day. the tv is on in other room and i hear chatter of case but i am not glued to tv. the phone has rung and facebook has posts. today is my birthday and friends are saying do something fun today. i say i am reading websleuths all day . they laugh and say case is over - i say i will never stop advocating for kids who are taken too soon by events .
your all wonderful souls
all nite i thought of is it somehow destiny that shes free to have a beautiful life ? should i pray for the right decision and then feel a prayer was not answered? then i remember all prayers are answered!!. some times the reply is NO!! sometimes not now!! sometimes its not for us to know why ,but be careful what you wish for . i would never want someone to get death penalty if innocent, i would never want lwop if innocent, i would want someone to have to face their soul if they lied. i would want no child to die as if they did not matter, problem is i can not control others. only my reaction to their behaviors. the sernity prayer should hang on my every thought .


12 jurors decided. i would like to say - why did you not see caylee as a skull with hair mass? why did you not see caylee as a beautiful baby someone killed? she did not turn into decomp by herself with no one to blame.
thanks for being such a wonderful place to post - all of you my friends i never met ,but will remember as a group of best advocates in the world for caylee!! thanks forever!!:seeya:

I never thought I was as emotionally attached to this case as I am. I read here and researched and examined with interest in crime, psychology and the law.

Yesterday showed me that I got too emotionally involved. Way too involved. It was a horrible, horrible day. One of the worst. I felt sick all day. I still feel sick. I felt depressed and still am. I tried to get my mind off it but I fell asleep remembering how I laughed at that CM blowing hard about walking out arm in arm with casey. What I joke I used to think that was. And, here it is.

When I finally began dozing off I did so with a sensation and images I never have had before. I had the sensation of Caylee being suffocated and struggling to breathe. That bolted me up.

I finally took a sleeping pill so I could sleep. I have a lot of work to do today. But, I woke right up again way too early, still so sick at heart, thinking about a murderer going free.

This feels like bad moments I have had in my career when I lost a case despite my very best efforts and facts on my side, when I went home sick and with a pit in my stomach for days. But, this is worse.

I went into the profession because justice is very important to me; right and wrong, fairness, fighting for those who do not have a voice, who lack power, all that jazz. I never went into this for the money. Yesterday I refrained from saying this was not justice because it is our system. But today I quote one of my very first law professors, Professor Binder, who stated: "The law is a wh*re."

He was right.
 
We should start a poll asking 'how long do you think it will take for ICA to start acting like her oldself and lying about everything'. CM and JB indicated they would help her once she is released. So, I say good. They deserve their lying cheating, client. I can't wait for this to happen. jmo

I didn't realize she stopped.
 
BBM
I heard somewhere yesterday that Mason said Casey will NOT be returning to the Anthony home, maybe just maybe she can become Jose's "Nanny". She was after all a wonderful mommy.

Yea really, let ICA go to there houses and take care of their babies.
 
Ugh,,,I am not posting much today. Still stunned. Everyone is talking about this no matter where I go.
 
My hubby talked to someone who was in Daytona during the trial, he said the people there thought she was innocent. How? I guess if you want to commit a crime, do it in Florida. No wonder all the pill mills are there, they can get away with it.
 
Do we have any WS poster from Pinellas County? I know there are quite a few from Florida but wondered if any were from where this jury is from.
Just curious.:fence:

Glad you asked this question. Wonder how Clearwater would appreciate KC relocating there. In her mind she may feel "welcome". JMO
 
It is not okay, but the state failed to charge Casey with anything that this act would cover. They could have done so, but they were going for the top charges only and it backfired, IMO.

Cluciano, all the legal experts, the lawyers, the court watchers, the law enforcement personnel, etc., cannot be wrong. She was not overcharged, IMO.

This was a first degree murder case. But obviously, certain things helped the defense:

1. They did a great job at jury selection, the state did not.
2. They listened hard to everyone who described in fantastic detail, exactly how casey should be dressed for trial, which was a huge difference from her pre-trial look and which made her look sweeter and more innocent.
3. casey acted well during trial, looking stunned and sad and weepy and scared, at all the right times, when it counted.
4. The state failed to introduce better evidence of motive. I cannot completely fault them for that because some of that evidence would have had to come from a dysfunctional family who never would have divulged the truth.
5. The state had to contend with a seriously dysfunctional family who seemed shady and lacked credibility to people who have not watched them and analyzed them for three years.
6. The jury understood reasonable doubt to mean any doubt at all.

Finally, if casey had been charged with tampering with a corpse, etc., and found guilty of such, it would not be justice. :twocents:
 
UGH! IS is talking about how precautions will need to be taken when she is released. I really wish they could just open the door, and say, "See ya, wouldn't want to be ya". :seeya:

Gawd, the OCSO better not have to "escort" her some place. Disgusting. Such a slap in the face to LE.
 
Ugh,,,I am not posting much today. Still stunned. Everyone is talking about this no matter where I go.

Same here.

The postman that comes in that has been tormenting me all alone saying she was going to walk, I didn't even look at him today. I stuck my hand for the mail, he placed mail in my hand and left. I think he knew not to say anything.

I am still in shock and awe over this. I keep saying I am not going to sign on internet nor listening to anything about it. But I keep coming back to see maybe if I was in a another world or something. Or if I had lost my mind for a day. I guess not cause it is everywhere. Still hard to grasp.
 
BBM
I heard somewhere yesterday that Mason said Casey will NOT be returning to the Anthony home, maybe just maybe she can become Jose's "Nanny". She was after all a wonderful mommy.

Casey has to have someone in her "world" that she can manipulate and control. That is just who she is and how she survives. Cindy allowed herself to be that role in Casey's life, IMO. Then it was her harem of a defense team.

I don't think it will be long before Cheney Mason sees the "real" Casey once she no longer has to play her inmate, poor me, role. Once she gets out, if she starts all this previous behavior and CM is involved in trying to help her get her life back together, I seriously doubt he will put up with much for very long. He just doesn't strike me as the sort of person to put up with someone manipulating him or lying to him (or about him - remember how she likes to play one off the other) This saga is yet to play out and I fear does not bode well for a nice outcome for Casey - no matter how you slice it.

IMO
 
My hubby talked to someone who was in Daytona during the trial, he said the people there thought she was innocent. How? I guess if you want to commit a crime, do it in Florida. No wonder all the pill mills are there, they can get away with it.


Not in all parts of Florida. I'm proud to live in the Florida County that sent Ted Bundy to the chair and just put Gary Hilton on death row.
 
JB said "Murder is not right no matter who does it" in his press conf.. well apparently if your KC it is.
 
OT: Hope it is okay to ask this here! Whatever happened to the other young mom, who also lived at home with her parents and brother and whose baby died and she claimed it choked on a plastic bag? I don't remember much about the case, only that I haven't heard about it in a long, long time. She dumped the baby (I think?) or was at least found in a bad part of town. She also had a support system with her parents and brother watching her baby while she worked. Seemed the case was similar in many ways to Casey's. Anyone know?? Sorry for the OT but it's driving me crazy trying to remember!

That's stacey barker, the mother of little Emma. Her trial ended right as casey's started and what her jury had to say caused me some moments of real doubt about this case.

In that case, they found the body quickly and determined cause of death - suffocation. stacey testified and did not come off well. Her parents testified and came off as lying, at least her dad did. She admitted to the death the same day Emma was murdered, but she did not admit to murder. She could not hold out as long as casey. Remember, she initally claimed it was a kidnapping too.

She got 20 years to life.

What bothered me was that the jury, later on, said they grappled with premeditation for a long time. And they had a fresh body and a cause of death and an unsympathetic defendant.

That got me worried about this case and I voiced my concerns but then quickly squelched them. Guess I shouldn't have.
 
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